Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-21 Thread MZMcBride
Keegan Peterzell wrote: This conversation should shift to meta sooner rather than later. I'm not on my PC, but perhaps /Talk:OTRS/Software? I'm not sure moving to Meta-Wiki is a good idea. OTRS is the current software. It's unclear what a Software talk subpage would be used for. I'm inclined to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-21 Thread Liam Wyatt
On 21 February 2013 19:02, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: I'm not sure moving to Meta-Wiki is a good idea. OTRS is the current software. It's unclear what a Software talk subpage would be used for. I understood him to mean that we should move the *discussion* to meta - not the handling

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-21 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:12 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 February 2013 19:02, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: I'm not sure moving to Meta-Wiki is a good idea. OTRS is the current software. It's unclear what a Software talk subpage would be used for. I understood

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-21 Thread K. Peachey
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 6:02 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: James Alexander wrote: Yeah, I have to agree sadly that we need more tech support and this has been a thing that has been ongoing for a while. I personally think it should remain in the foundation for many reasons (the least of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-21 Thread Peter Gervai
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:25 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Wikimedia is currently running OTRS version 2.4. The most recently released OTRS version is 3.2. There's been an outstanding request to update Wikimedia's OTRS installation for just shy of three years now: Yes. May have been

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-21 Thread Thomas Morton
I offered to look into this some time last year, and apply for a grant to write an up to date piece of software. However it didn't get a good response, with the foundation promising an OTRS update early this year... apparent progress was made at that point, but it petered out very quickly. Tom

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-21 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Peter Gervai, 21/02/2013 11:04: I can help supporting OTRS, and Wikimedia Hungary can officially support it as well. I do not intend to look for alternatives, partly because I'm quite happy with OTRS, partly because I haven't met anything better suiting this kind of job and partly because I'm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-21 Thread Peter Gervai
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Peter Gervai, 21/02/2013 11:04: I can help supporting OTRS, and Wikimedia Hungary can officially support it as well. I do not intend to look for alternatives, partly because I'm quite happy with OTRS, partly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-21 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Peter Gervai, 21/02/2013 11:25: On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Peter Gervai, 21/02/2013 11:04: I can help supporting OTRS, and Wikimedia Hungary can officially support it as well. I do not intend to look for alternatives, partly because I'm quite happy with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-21 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2013/2/21 Peter Gervai grin...@gmail.com: On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com wrote: I personally feel more comfortable if the OTRS system is maintained by WMF and not by any small (or even larger) Wikimedia chapter - even my We were talking about local

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-21 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
I am sorry for breaking threading; my undigestify plugin is giving me an error. I'm looking at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22622 -- Upgrade Wikimedia OTRS installation from 2.4.x CVS to the latest version (3.2.1) -- and I see that Wikimedia Foundation's Rob Halsell has been trying to get in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-21 Thread Nicole Ebber
Just a quick reply: We have been in touch with Martin Edenhofer a few months ago and I will try to reach out to him today. Best, Nicole On 21 February 2013 13:07, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: I am sorry for breaking threading; my undigestify plugin is giving me an error.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-21 Thread David Gerard
On 21 February 2013 12:07, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: [Sumana does ALL THE THINGS] This is a wonderful response. Thank you! - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-21 Thread Charles Andrès
Thanks Sumana, For legal reason , WMCH, as fundraising processor, had to get its own OTRS system and queues, if it's a Movement request supported by the Foundation , we will be more than happy to participate and support the development of an alternative host by a chapter or the chapter

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-21 Thread MZMcBride
David Gerard wrote: On 21 February 2013 12:07, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: [Sumana does ALL THE THINGS] This is a wonderful response. Thank you! Completely agreed. Thank you, Sumana! It seems like we're headed in a good direction. MZMcBride

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-21 Thread Rjd0060
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:54 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: [Sumana does ALL THE THINGS] This is a wonderful response. Thank you! Completely agreed. Thank you, Sumana! It seems like we're headed in a good direction. Yes, Sumana. I look forward to seeing what information your

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-21 Thread David Goodman
I get very exasperated when the WMF says it does not have the money for something . Since it is spends only 1/2 of its annual receipts, it has the money; The actual meaning of the statement is that the WMF does not think the project of high enough priority to do, and would prefer to add the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-21 Thread Nathan
In fairness to the WMF tech team, and without totally absolving them of delays, it looks like a lot of the delay has been related to problems contacting and exchanging information with the OTRS inventor. Not that the WMF couldn't have put more energy into staying in touch with him, but it's worth

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-21 Thread Platonides
On 21/02/13 07:19, [[w:en:User:Madman]] wrote: Does anyone know what the status is of the OTRS project on Labs? Given a contact, I'd be happy to do what I can to help; I have some limited experience configuring/deploying OTRS (up until the end of the 3.0 branch last year, nothing with 3.1 or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-21 Thread Nicole Ebber
Martin has answered my email and just left a comment on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22622. I'll get him in touch with Sumana via E-Mail. Hope this helps, best regards, Nicole On 21 February 2013 21:37, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: On 21/02/13 07:19,

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-20 Thread MZMcBride
Hi. OTRS (https://ticket.wikimedia.org/) is a critical piece of Wikimedia's infrastructure. It currently handles nearly all customer service inquiries directed at Wikimedia. Trusted volunteers triage and respond to this e-mail. Wikimedia is currently running OTRS version 2.4. The most recently

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-20 Thread Gregory Varnum
This could be a good project for one of the developing MediaWiki Groups. MediaWiki Group San Francisco is already approved by AffCom and eligible for grants. -greg aka varnent On 20 Feb, 2013, at 11:25 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Hi. OTRS (https://ticket.wikimedia.org/) is a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-20 Thread Rjd0060
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:25 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Hi. OTRS (https://ticket.wikimedia.org/) is a critical piece of Wikimedia's infrastructure. It currently handles nearly all customer service inquiries directed at Wikimedia. Trusted volunteers triage and respond to this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-20 Thread DeltaQuad Wikipedia
+1, the interface still confuses me at somepoints today. But I have to ask, are we getting everything we need with an OTRS update to the new version, or are we settling for a medioker (excuse my spelling, it is late). Is it a better idea to have wikimedians (maybe through grants, idk) build

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-20 Thread Rjd0060
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Rjd0060 rjd0060.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:25 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Hi. OTRS (https://ticket.wikimedia.org/) is a critical piece of Wikimedia's infrastructure. It currently handles nearly all customer service

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-20 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Rjd0060 rjd0060.w...@gmail.com wrote: To clarify, the Foundation support that would be appreciated here is from the tech/ops group. We've had good response from other staff on related issues, and that is much appreciated. -- Ryan User:Rjd0060 To

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-20 Thread Casey Brown
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 12:18 AM, DeltaQuad Wikipedia deltaquadw...@gmail.com wrote: Is it a better idea to have wikimedians (maybe through grants, idk) build something open source and cc-whatever? That way fixes can be made and we can get many devs (broad sense of the term) fixing bugs of a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-20 Thread MZMcBride
Keegan Peterzell wrote: I've been an Volunteer Response Team agent since 2009, and a leader (OTRS admin) since 2010. In that time the control of OTRS moved from a function that had a designated staff role of control to one of community management. In the past two and a half years Philippe has been

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-20 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 12:02 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: But OTRS is ultimately a big piece of software. Maybe the Wikimedia Foundation can buy a support contract for it if nobody is willing/able to support/maintain it internally? Or maybe that's something a chapter or grant

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-20 Thread [[w:en:User:Madman]]
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 1:02 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: This also isn't a criticism of the Wikimedia Foundation engineering folks. They've got plenty on their plate as well, of course. But _somebody_ has to be supporting the technical portion of OTRS. If the Wikimedia Foundation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-20 Thread James Alexander
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Rjd0060 rjd0060.w...@gmail.com wrote: To clarify, the Foundation support that would be appreciated here is from the tech/ops group. We've had good response from other staff on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-20 Thread Keegan Peterzell
This conversation should shift to meta sooner rather than later. I'm not on my PC, but perhaps /Talk:OTRS/Software? ~ Keegan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: