[Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-16 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi folks, a quick update on the launch of a travel project under the WMF umbrella, and the import of the existing Wikivoyage site. * The name of the new site will be wikivoyage.org, per community vote. Language domains will live at (foo).wikivoyage.org. * A mailing list has been set up at https:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-16 Thread Arthur Richards
Exciting stuff! Don't forget to provision .m domains for wikivoyage if a mobile version is expected (I imagine it is). As a side note, it would be great if provisioning .m domains was sop for setting up new domains. On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Erik Moeller wrote: > Hi folks, > > a quick u

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-16 Thread Strainu
Hi Erik, What languages are you launching with and what is the procedure for launching new languages? Thanks, Strainu 2012/10/16 Erik Moeller : > Hi folks, > > a quick update on the launch of a travel project under the WMF > umbrella, and the import of the existing Wikivoyage site. > > * The n

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-16 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Strainu wrote: > Hi Erik, > > What languages are you launching with and what is the procedure for > launching new languages? We're basing the initial set on the languages which are ready for import from Wikivoyage. At this point, it looks like that would be German

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-16 Thread Samuel Klein
A great update. Thanks Erik! On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Strainu wrote: > > We're basing the initial set on the languages which are ready for > import from Wikivoyage. At this point, it looks like that would be > German, Italian, Engli

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, This has been discussed in the language committee. In the committee we all agreed that the existing languages for Wikivoyage should start without any interference of us and that new languages should start through the normal process because from now they are just like any other new project in a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread Strainu
2012/10/17 Gerard Meijssen : > > This has been discussed in the language committee. In the committee we all > agreed that the existing languages for Wikivoyage should start without any > interference of us and that new languages should start through the normal > process because from now they are ju

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/10/17 Strainu : > 2012/10/17 Gerard Meijssen : >> >> This has been discussed in the language committee. In the committee we all >> agreed that the existing languages for Wikivoyage should start without any >> interference of us and that new languages should start through the normal >> process

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread Deryck Chan
On 17 October 2012 09:16, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > 2012/10/17 Strainu : > > 2012/10/17 Gerard Meijssen : > >> > >> This has been discussed in the language committee. In the committee we > all > >> agreed that the existing languages for Wikivoyage should start without > any > >> interference of us

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2012/10/17 Amir E. Aharoni : > 2012/10/17 Strainu : >> 2012/10/17 Gerard Meijssen : >>> >>> This has been discussed in the language committee. In the committee we all >>> agreed that the existing languages for Wikivoyage should start without any >>> interference of us and that new languages should

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:44:49 +0200, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, This has been discussed in the language committee. In the committee we all agreed that the existing languages for Wikivoyage should start without any interference of us and that new languages should start through the normal proces

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread Juergen Fenn
2012/10/17 Deryck Chan : > I think Strainu is referring to languages that exist on Wikitravel but not > Wikivoyage. Probably a practical question: As Wikitravel closed the API in August, there is probably no more data that Wikivoyage could rescue from the project than now is available in Wikivoya

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/10/17 Deryck Chan : > On 17 October 2012 09:16, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > >> 2012/10/17 Strainu : >> > 2012/10/17 Gerard Meijssen : >> >> >> >> This has been discussed in the language committee. In the committee we >> all >> >> agreed that the existing languages for Wikivoyage should start with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2012/10/17 Juergen Fenn : > 2012/10/17 Deryck Chan : > >> I think Strainu is referring to languages that exist on Wikitravel but not >> Wikivoyage. > > Probably a practical question: As Wikitravel closed the API in August, > there is probably no more data that Wikivoyage could rescue from the > pro

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread Strainu
> 2012/10/17 Juergen Fenn : >> 2012/10/17 Deryck Chan : >> >>> I think Strainu is referring to languages that exist on Wikitravel but not >>> Wikivoyage. >> >> Probably a practical question: As Wikitravel closed the API in August, >> there is probably no more data that Wikivoyage could rescue from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread Juergen Fenn
2012/10/17 Tomasz Ganicz : >> Probably a practical question: As Wikitravel closed the API in August, >> there is probably no more data that Wikivoyage could rescue from the >> project than now is available in Wikivoyage. If a language community >> needs a fresh start in Wikivoyage it would have to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread Roland Unger
> > 2012/10/17 Juergen Fenn : > >> 2012/10/17 Deryck Chan : > >> > >>> I think Strainu is referring to languages that exist on Wikitravel > but not > >>> Wikivoyage. > >> > >> Probably a practical question: As Wikitravel closed the API in August, > >> there is probably no more data that Wikivoyage

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread James Heilman
People have copies of all language versions of the old site as of Aug of 2012. It should be possible to set them up as well. What we would need would be a community of editors to request it. No real sense creating dead wiki that fill with spam. However it would also be nice if we could stream line

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread Strainu
2012/10/17 Roland Unger : >> > 2012/10/17 Juergen Fenn : >> >> 2012/10/17 Deryck Chan : >> >> >> >>> I think Strainu is referring to languages that exist on Wikitravel >> but not >> >>> Wikivoyage. >> >> >> >> Probably a practical question: As Wikitravel closed the API in August, >> >> there is pro

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, From my perspective, what is relevant is that we do not want to interfere with languages that exist in Wikitravel. It is quite likely that most of these languages are quite good from a localisation point of view. What makes sense if several languages are not in Wikivoyage yet, we can extend o

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
And Portuguese WikiTravel? Which has nearly 3000 articles, ie more than WikiTravel in Spanish, which also is not listed, and has more than ru and sv, which were imported. And updates are occurring. On 17 October 2012 08:27, Strainu wrote: > 2012/10/17 Roland Unger : > >> > 2012/10/17 Juergen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread Roland Unger
> And Portuguese WikiTravel? > Which has nearly 3000 articles, ie more than WikiTravel in Spanish, which > also is not listed, and has more than ru and sv, which were imported. > And updates > are occurring. There is up to now no community (5 persons) who helps migrating the content. See: http://

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
Now, we have five :D On 17 October 2012 10:29, Roland Unger wrote: > > And Portuguese WikiTravel? > > Which has nearly 3000 articles, ie more than WikiTravel in Spanish, > which > > also is not listed, and has more than ru and sv, which were imported. > > And updates > > are occurring. > > Ther

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread Kim Bruning
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:47:42AM -0700, Erik Moeller wrote: > Hi folks, > > a quick update on the launch of a travel project under the WMF > umbrella, and the import of the existing Wikivoyage site. <3 <3 <3 sincerely, Kim Bruning ___ Wikime

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread Kim Bruning
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 10:36:28AM +0200, Juergen Fenn wrote: > 2012/10/17 Deryck Chan : > > > I think Strainu is referring to languages that exist on Wikitravel but not > > Wikivoyage. > > Probably a practical question: As Wikitravel closed the API in August, > there is probably no more data tha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-11-10 Thread Erik Moeller
So, if you've not been following along on wikivoyage-l ( https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l ), you should know that Wikivoyage is now hosted on WMF servers. :) We're currently in "beta", as there's still lots of smaller and larger issues to work through, including transferrin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-11-10 Thread Erik Moeller
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Erik Moeller wrote: > httsp://en.wikivoyage.org/ Er, https://en.wikivoyage.org/ :) -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate __

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-11-10 Thread Samuel Klein
It really is a beautiful project to get lost in :-) Thank you (and Hans!) for all of the work done to make this happen quickly. Sam. On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 12:59 AM, Erik Moeller wrote: > So, if you've not been following along on wikivoyage-l ( > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinf

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-11-10 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Roland Unger, 17/10/2012 11:11: It's correct that the dumps of all languages from August 2012 are available at Wikivoyage saved as XML files. But these files could not be used to publish them immediately because they contain a lot of spam which must be removed by the community before. But the co

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-11-11 Thread Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
Soo... We need to restart de pt.wikivoyage.org? One of the biggest projects?? This is true?? 2000 articles, importing by hand??? On 11 November 2012 05:58, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Roland Unger, 17/10/2012 11:11: > > It's correct that the dumps of all languages from August 2012 are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-11-11 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton wrote: > Soo... We need to restart de pt.wikivoyage.org? One of the biggest > projects?? This is true?? 2000 articles, importing by hand??? Hi Rodrigo, we were only able to import languages from Wikivoyage where dumps were prepared an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-11-11 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, How many original Wikivoyage projects exist that have not been automagically exported exist ?? With Portuguese as the example, it would make sense to have it started in its own wiki. The language committee has made an exception for existing projects. The Portuguese project exists and as such i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-11-11 Thread Roland Unger
Hi folks, the Wikivoyage e.V. got the xml files of more language versions, I think also for es, fi, hu, ja, pl, pt, ro and zh from user Wrh2. I saw pt running. The initStats maintenance scripts for pt shows: Counting total edits...77254 Counting number of articles...3109 Counting total pages...

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-11-12 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Roland Unger, 12/11/2012 07:46: Hi folks, the Wikivoyage e.V. got the xml files of more language versions, I think also for es, fi, hu, ja, pl, pt, ro and zh from user Wrh2. Where are they? Again, please publish them. I saw pt running. The initStats maintenance scripts for pt shows: Countin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-11-12 Thread MF-Warburg
2012/11/12 Federico Leva (Nemo) > Roland Unger, 12/11/2012 07:46: > > Hi folks, >> >> the Wikivoyage e.V. got the xml files of more language versions, I >> think also for es, fi, hu, ja, pl, pt, ro and zh from user Wrh2. >> > > Where are they? Again, please publish them. > >> I can only underlin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-11-12 Thread Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
So you're telling me there's files, but you will not import because no one of the Portuguese speakers helped in the cleaning process? Then I'll have to start from scratch (something that already exists), denying the existence of a community and the previous project and I still have to go through va

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-11-12 Thread Samuel Klein
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > > we were only able to import languages from Wikivoyage where dumps were > prepared and pre-processed by the Wikivoyage-folks (who are, BTW, all > volunteers and have done amazing work on this). So all the languages > from wikivoyage-old.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-11-12 Thread Patricio Lorente
2012/11/12 Samuel Klein : > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > >> >> we were only able to import languages from Wikivoyage where dumps were >> prepared and pre-processed by the Wikivoyage-folks (who are, BTW, all >> volunteers and have done amazing work on this). So all the la

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :) Thanks, GerardM On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton < rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote: > So you're telling me there's files, but you will not import because no one > of the Portuguese speakers helped in the cleaning proces

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-03 Thread Osmar Valdebenito
Great! Osmar Valdebenito G. 2013/1/3 Patricio Lorente > 2013/1/3 Gerard Meijssen : > > Hoi, > > The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :) > > Thanks, > > GerardM > > And also the Spanish Wikivoyage! > http://es.wikivoyage.org/wiki/P%C3%A1gina_principal > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-03 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 18:02:32 -0300, Patricio Lorente wrote: 2013/1/3 Gerard Meijssen : Hoi, The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :) Thanks, GerardM And also the Spanish Wikivoyage! http://es.wikivoyage.org/wiki/P%C3%A1gina_principal

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-03 Thread Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
Uhuu Thank all, thanks awesome!!Hooray!! On 3 January 2013 18:28, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :) > Thanks, > GerardM > > > On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton < > rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-03 Thread Oona Castro
Awesome, Gerard! Muito obrigada! Happy new year and great guides to Portuguese speaking countries ;-) Oona On 3 January 2013 18:28, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :) > Thanks, > GerardM > > > On 12 November 2012 22:31, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argento

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-03 Thread Everton Zanella Alvarenga
Hi, Gerard. Thank you. I am sure there were people involved that worked hard to make it happen. The community of Portuguese speakers for sure appreciate these efforts. Tom 2013/1/3 Gerard Meijssen : > Hoi, > The Portuguese Wikivoyage has been created. :) > Thanks, > GerardM __

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am only the bringer of the good news. I posted this because of the many words we spend on it. It is happily resolved. Thanks, GerardM On 4 January 2013 00:01, Everton Zanella Alvarenga wrote: > Hi, Gerard. > > Thank you. I am sure there were people involved that worked hard to > make

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-03 Thread Etienne Beaule
Everyone forgot the assamese wikisource. On 2013-01-03 19:37, "Gerard Meijssen" wrote: > Hoi, > I am only the bringer of the good news. I posted this because of the many > words we spend on it. It is happily resolved. > Thanks, > GerardM > > > On 4 January 2013 00:01, Everton Zanella Alv

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi Etienne, Thank you for informing us about the Assamese Wikisource; it is live as well :) A great day :) Thanks, GerardM On 4 January 2013 00:40, Etienne Beaule wrote: > Everyone forgot the assamese wikisource. > > > On 2013-01-03 19:37, "Gerard Meijssen" wrote: > > > Hoi, > > I am only

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-04 Thread Stefan Fussan
A warm welcome to the Spanish and Portuguese Wikivoyagers! 2013/1/4 Gerard Meijssen > Hoi Etienne, > Thank you for informing us about the Assamese Wikisource; it is live as > well :) > A great day :) > Thanks, > GerardM > > > On 4 January 2013 00:40, Etienne Beaule wrote: > > > Everyone fo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-05 Thread Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
Thank you, The importation almost over, just missing the namespace Wikivoyage, now we have to start cleaning, and... when this page http://www.wikivoyage.org/ will be updated? Do not think this wiki needs sysop could stay only with Stewards? On 5 January 2013 05:31, Stefan Fussan wrote: > A

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-05 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton, 05/01/2013 10:41: Thank you, The importation almost over, just missing the namespace Wikivoyage, now we have to start cleaning, and... when this page http://www.wikivoyage.org/ will be updated? Edit it yourself at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Www.wikivoyage.org_tem

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2013-01-05 Thread Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
I had never seen those pages, and also could not edit, seems too complex for me :P, but CBrown already did, thanks. On 5 January 2013 10:08, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton, 05/01/2013 10:41: > > Thank you, >> >> The importation almost over, just missing the namespace Wik