[Wikimedia-l] Wiktionary & language study

2015-07-02 Thread dzo
Of possible interest - perspectives on use of en.woktionary & fr.wiktionary for vocabulary learning/review, with focus on African languages: http://niamey.blogspot.com/2015/07/wiktionary-as-tool-for-african-language.html An idea buried in the text: Would it be possible to develop a kind of "fla

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiktionary & language study

2015-07-02 Thread Dennis During
The flashcard function idea is not essential, given the availability of superior free, open-source, multi-platform flashcard programs like Anki. But it might be a good tool for engaging folks. There are Swadesh lists for many languages, which should be supplemented by more contemporary words and p

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiktionary & language study

2015-07-02 Thread Asaf Bartov
I agree: there are excellent free-software flashcard programs out there, and no need to duplicate that functionality. This does suggest that convenient export functions (e.g. by category, by language) in formats expected by Anki etc. could enable a lot more use of Wiktionaries as sources for vocab

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiktionary & language study

2015-07-03 Thread Dennis During
Online flashcards would be useful for demonstrating the idea to those not familiar with some aspect of them. Directing users to the sources of software for their platforms would be in the interests of both users (better individualization, no need for connectivity) and MW (less server load). The n

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiktionary & language study

2015-07-04 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 6:50 PM, wrote: > An idea buried in the text: Would it be possible to develop a kind of > "flashcard" function based on "random page by language" where entry headwords > for the chosen language would be generated without the definition(s)? This will become considerably e

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiktionary & language study

2015-07-04 Thread Dennis During
This will become considerably easier once we have Wikidata support for Wiktionary. The latest proposal for how to do this is at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wiktionary/Development/Proposals/2015-05 and welcoming feedback. Easier for whom? Is there an ETA for that? On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiktionary & language study

2015-07-05 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 4:37 AM, Dennis During wrote: > Easier for whom? Since it'll be more machine-readable than it is now it'll be easier for a programmer to make use of the data to build a tool like you proposed or use it in an existing tool. > Is there an ETA for that? No. It's quite some w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiktionary & language study

2015-07-05 Thread Dennis During
I'm getting old, so I may not be able to wait for the completion of a project that hasn't started. I guess I'm looking for something that can be demonstrated soon, for one class of vocabulary (language or technical jargon), before the year is out or sooner. I will probably try to assemble content