On Sat, 4 Aug 2012 14:12:08 +0200, Ziko van Dijk wrote:
Hello,
I repeat my proposal that every wiki-website ("project") should
install a (international) contact person, and these contact persons
should be following a mailing list with specified information for
them. They inform the wiki-website-c
There's a very strong selection bias on this list towards those that can read
English, and those that have the time to follow very long, convoluted
discussions. ;-) I think Ziko's talking more about a low-traffic list with key
issues/points concisely described, which is completely different from
Thank you for the links, Tilman!
2012/8/4 Tilman Bayer :
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Amir E. Aharoni
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> In the 2012-13 WMF plan document I saw an interesting thing:
>> "We’ve hosted key community stakeholders such as English Wikipedia’s
>> ArbCom and Portuguese Wikiped
What is wrong with just using this (and other lists, as appropriate)
for this? Not only can every community participate, it isn't
restricted to another group of users ... everybody can!
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Ryan
User:Rjd0060
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Ziko van Dijk wrote:
> Hello,
> I repeat my proposal
Hello,
I repeat my proposal that every wiki-website ("project") should
install a (international) contact person, and these contact persons
should be following a mailing list with specified information for
them. They inform the wiki-website-community about important issues on
the village pump or via
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Amir E. Aharoni
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In the 2012-13 WMF plan document I saw an interesting thing:
> "We’ve hosted key community stakeholders such as English Wikipedia’s
> ArbCom and Portuguese Wikipedia’s top contributors, in an effort to
> better understand and respo
Hi,
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 6:52 PM, phoebe ayers wrote:
>
> And, I would love to see us build a stronger structure for
> transmitting community concerns up to the WMF/chapters/developers/etc,
> and vice versa: we should work on rebuilding the embassy and
> ambassador network, creating translatio
phoebe ayers, 30/07/2012 18:52:
I'm not sure if in the long term focusing on specific language
communities and recruiting fellows is the sustainable answer for the
WMF -- actually I'm pretty sure it isn't -- but I also don't think it
can hurt to try and build a deep (and as Amir notes cross-proje
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Deryck Chan wrote:
> Hire someone from the local Wikipedia community to do it.
Easily said, but... which local community? All 280ish of them? Wait,
that's just languages we're up to nearly 700 sites now, aren't we? :)
pb
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On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
wrote:
> Amir E. Aharoni, 29/07/2012 20:27:
>
>> In the 2012-13 WMF plan document I saw an interesting thing:
>> "We’ve hosted key community stakeholders such as English Wikipedia’s
>> ArbCom and Portuguese Wikipedia’s top contributors, in an
Hire someone from the local Wikipedia community to do it. This can be
integrated into the proposed "language community and cultural translation"
WMF fellow's job description.
MediaWiki feature decisions are gruesome chores. In small language project
communities the active editors typically don't i
As a very general point; working out how to include non-enlang editors in
features decisions is right at the top of my "list of wicked problems to
handle". If anyone has any ideas, please shoot me an email :)
On 30 July 2012 14:07, Béria Lima wrote:
> John, when those meetings happened, what the
John, when those meetings happened, what they said was "we want to meet
people from Brasil" and when asked who they wanted to meet, the answer was
"anyone, doesn't matter how long you contribute or how much, we only want
to talk with the Brazilian community",so no, none of those meetings were
calls
Oh my dear beloved Steven, It VERY much is.
The editors who wrote the biggest number of articles is Portuguese (Nuno
Tavares), the one who run pretty much all the bots in pt wiki and is also
Adm and crat is also portuguese (Alchimista aka André Barbosa), the one who
created and put foward the poli
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On 29 July 2012 22:57, Nathan wrote:
>> Can your masters degree in mathematics point out where in Wikimedia's
>> statement it said "all" or implied anything other than having met some of
>> Portuguese Wikipedia's top contributors? Not sure w
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On 29 July 2012 22:48, Steven Walling wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Thomas Dalton >wrote:
> >
> >> While I may not be involved in the Portuguese Wikipedia, I do have a
> >> masters degree in mathematics, so I can reliably info
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On 29 July 2012 22:57, Nathan wrote:
> > Can your masters degree in mathematics point out where in Wikimedia's
> > statement it said "all" or implied anything other than having met some of
> > Portuguese Wikipedia's top contributors? Not su
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> This is not a mole hill. It is the WMF (I assume intentionally, since
> you must have known better) misleading people about its activities.
> You had a particular message you wanted to give, so you described the
> activity in a way that suppo
On 29 July 2012 22:57, Nathan wrote:
> Can your masters degree in mathematics point out where in Wikimedia's
> statement it said "all" or implied anything other than having met some of
> Portuguese Wikipedia's top contributors? Not sure what the big deal is.
The word "all" actually appeared in my
On 29 July 2012 22:48, Steven Walling wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>
>> While I may not be involved in the Portuguese Wikipedia, I do have a
>> masters degree in mathematics, so I can reliably inform you that
>> "majority" is not the same as "all".
>>
>> The WMF t
On 29 July 2012 22:57, Nathan wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Thomas Dalton >wrote:
>
> > On 29 July 2012 22:33, Steven Walling wrote:
> > > I can see how you would think this if you're not involved with these
> > > communities, but a clear majority of the active editors on Portuguese
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On 29 July 2012 22:33, Steven Walling wrote:
> > I can see how you would think this if you're not involved with these
> > communities, but a clear majority of the active editors on Portuguese
> > Wikipedia are in fact Brazilian. The descript
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> While I may not be involved in the Portuguese Wikipedia, I do have a
> masters degree in mathematics, so I can reliably inform you that
> "majority" is not the same as "all".
>
> The WMF tends to employ smart people, so I assume that whoever
On 29 July 2012 22:39, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On 29 July 2012 22:33, Steven Walling wrote:
> > I can see how you would think this if you're not involved with these
> > communities, but a clear majority of the active editors on Portuguese
> > Wikipedia are in fact Brazilian. The description given
On 29 July 2012 22:33, Steven Walling wrote:
> I can see how you would think this if you're not involved with these
> communities, but a clear majority of the active editors on Portuguese
> Wikipedia are in fact Brazilian. The description given is not inaccurate.
While I may not be involved in th
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
>
> That reads like it was a meeting with a selection of Brazilian
> Wikipedians. That does not equate with "Portuguese Wikipedia’s top
> contributors". I'm sure some of Portuguese Wikipedia’s top
> contributors are Brazilian, but it is rather
Thomas Dalton, 29/07/2012 23:01:
On 29 July 2012 21:52, Steven Walling wrote:
Our blog post reporting back on the trip to Brazil is here, in English and
Portuguese: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/03/22/brazil-meetups-march/
That reads like it was a meeting with a selection of Brazilian
Wikip
On 29 July 2012 21:52, Steven Walling wrote:
> Our blog post reporting back on the trip to Brazil is here, in English and
> Portuguese: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/03/22/brazil-meetups-march/
That reads like it was a meeting with a selection of Brazilian
Wikipedians. That does not equate with
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Amir E. Aharoni <
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
> I don't know how did the meeting with the Portuguese Wikipedians go; I
> suppose that it was good. I don't remember that I read anything about
> it in blogs or mailing lists, but I may have missed it. Maybe
Is it really only a problem of language?
Why should the WMF meet ArbCom members, for instance? It doesn't seem
a suitable way to understand a community. I'm not saying that there
are easy alternatives of course. :-)
Nemo
For instance, Russian Wikipedia community is strongly divided for
already
2012/7/29 Federico Leva (Nemo) :
> Amir E. Aharoni, 29/07/2012 21:35:
>
>>> I'm not sure I like the idea of "key community stakeholders"
>>
>>
>> Well, this sends us back to Tom Morris' classic post:
>> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2012-February/118759.html
>>
>> But that's a di
Amir E. Aharoni, 29/07/2012 21:35:
I'm not sure I like the idea of "key community stakeholders"
Well, this sends us back to Tom Morris' classic post:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2012-February/118759.html
But that's a different topic.
Is it really only a problem of langua
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2012/7/29 Federico Leva (Nemo) :
> Amir E. Aharoni, 29/07/2012 20:27:
>
>> In the 2012-13 WMF plan document I saw an interesting thing:
>> "We’ve hoste
Amir E. Aharoni, 29/07/2012 20:27:
In the 2012-13 WMF plan document I saw an interesting thing:
"We’ve hosted key community stakeholders such as English Wikipedia’s
ArbCom and Portuguese Wikipedia’s top contributors, in an effort to
better understand and respond to issues they're facing." (page 4
Hi,
In the 2012-13 WMF plan document I saw an interesting thing:
"We’ve hosted key community stakeholders such as English Wikipedia’s
ArbCom and Portuguese Wikipedia’s top contributors, in an effort to
better understand and respond to issues they're facing." (page 41).
I was very happy to read th
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