[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

2024-04-28 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
No, we can't. The Wikimedia Foundation also blocked the option for mirroring, that was our first approach because it reduces 3rd party involvement and we could translate the software. WMF's approach is "don't do anything". A complete waste of time. Galder From:

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

2024-04-28 Thread Samuel Klein
Thoughtful mirroring would address some of Amir's concerns. (Amir: which ones remain?) Could you use the gadget with a mirror? On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 1:50 PM James Heilman wrote: > The other option would be to have a copy of the OWID software on our own > servers (it is all openly licensed).

[Wikimedia-l] Integrating OWID with Wikimedia

2024-04-28 Thread Samuel Klein
[Changing the topic to be more precise: how to get OWID specifically to work] Ah, I recall that Amir said last year that he sees this as complex, requiring a sanitized mirroring service inside WM production, which in turn requires traversing an entire 'path to production' that is underspecified.

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

2024-04-28 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
@Vigneron: the data is stored in Commons. But the visualization is impossible. The WMF has blocked all possibilities to show it that are not an static image.2024(e)ko api. 28(a) 11:32 erabiltzaileak hau idatzi du (Nicolas VIGNERON ):Hi y'all,Maybe a naive question but why don't we store the data

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Integrating OWID with Wikimedia

2024-04-28 Thread Todd Allen
Ultimately, this seems a case of "Fix it or get out of the way". There was already a suggestion of restoring graphs with the ability to modify them restricted to interface admins. People with IA permissions could, quite frankly, do far more harmful things to user security if they "went rogue"

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Vote now to select members of the first U4C

2024-04-28 Thread Doug Weller
There are two voting guides. A bit depressing. It's also obvious some candidates are using AI Chat to answer questions. User:MarioGom/Voting guides/U4C2024 User:Giraffer/U4CE2024

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

2024-04-28 Thread Nicolas VIGNERON
Hi y'all, Maybe a naive question but why don't we store the data in Wikidata and/or on Commons (in the data namespace) ? Cheers, Nicolas Le dim. 28 avr. 2024 à 09:18, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < galder...@hotmail.com> a écrit : > No, we can't. > The Wikimedia Foundation also blocked the option

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Integrating OWID with Wikimedia

2024-04-28 Thread Kimmo Virtanen
Hi, Just as a practical suggestion. The Wikimedia Hackathon is next week, and there are likely enough relevant people (volunteers, WMF tech) onsite who could answer how to proceed to get a possible path forward. The other global gadgets that use 3rd party data would also require resolution on how

[Wikimedia-l] Re: We need more interactive content: we are doing it wrong

2024-04-28 Thread Charles Roberson
My main concern is that we’re risking third parties controlling the movement. I don’t mean to make a slippery slope argument, but it is kind of easy to head off at the pass before things get worse. - Charles On Sunday, April 28, 2024, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote: > Hi y'all, > > Maybe a naive