Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages (was Re: Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages)

2012-11-14 Thread Vickram Crishna
Judging from this clarification, it seems that a position is being created that the Indus valley civilisation was the sole active player in the separation of Dravidian from non-Dravidian communities, and that we should shun any attempt to use the word Indic, as that might show unnecessary respect

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages (was Re: Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages)

2012-11-14 Thread Pradeep Nair
...@mail.huji.ac.il To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages (was Re: Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages) 2012/11/14 Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com: The word 'Indic

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages (was Re: Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages)

2012-11-14 Thread Anirudh Bhati
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: So are the words India and Indian. If this logic is true, then the English name of the Republic of India, and the name of this mailing list would be derogatory as well. Evidently, to most people they aren't.

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages (was Re: Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages)

2012-11-14 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/11/14 Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com: The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Linguistics by PH Matthews distinguishes Indic scripts from the Dravidian scripts, clearly specifying that Indic refers to the languages belonging to the Indo-Aryan Family (see page 175 of This is one particular -

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages (was Re: Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages)

2012-11-14 Thread Anirudh Bhati
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Again: Let's not make up controversy. No one is trying to rake up a controversy. This is a polite discussion, at least on my part, so I will appreciate if you do not allude otherwise. I have presented an

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages (was Re: Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages)

2012-11-14 Thread Anivar Aravind
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Again: Let's not make up controversy. No one is trying to rake up a controversy. This is a polite discussion, at least on my

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages (was Re: Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages)

2012-11-14 Thread Theo10011
This is getting rather silly. Amir might not realize that he is flirting with some political undertones, with his argument, but is also the same stance on the word that I've had against Anirudh'd characterization. I might have had a brief discussion with Anirudh about this a couple of years ago,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages (was Re: Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages)

2012-11-13 Thread Anirudh Bhati
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:02 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: If he didn't explain it, then you can presume that it's wrong. There's nothing to discuss, and there's nothing wrong with saying Indic languages. The word Indic refers generally to the Indo-Aryan family of

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages (was Re: Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages)

2012-11-13 Thread praveenp
On Wednesday 14 November 2012 09:31 AM, Anirudh Bhati wrote: The word Indic refers generally to the Indo-Aryan family of languages, which does not include Dravidian languages prevalent in Southern India. [citation needed] Then Why don't they just called Indic language, other than Indo-Aryan

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages (was Re: Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages)

2012-11-13 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2012/11/14 Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:02 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: If he didn't

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages (was Re: Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages)

2012-11-13 Thread Vikram Vincent
The word Indic refers generally to the Indo-Aryan family of languages, which does not include Dravidian languages prevalent in Southern India. Hence, bunching the entire system of Dravidian languages together with the Indo-Aryan languages in India may seem derogatory to some, and reasonably

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages (was Re: Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages)

2012-11-13 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I don't know which dictionary this is. Merriam-Webster says that it can be both: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/indic Indic is very common in discussion of computing in the languages of India and its neighboring countries, all of which face similar challenges. There's nothing

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages (was Re: Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages)

2012-11-13 Thread Anivar Aravind
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:02 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: If he didn't explain it, then you can presume that it's wrong. There's nothing to discuss, and there's nothing wrong with saying

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages (was Re: Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages)

2012-11-13 Thread Anirudh Bhati
My email was not directed at anyone personally. It was simply a response to the observation Srikanth made and from what I glanced from Wikipedia articles.[1] In the context of linguistics, you will be hard-pressed to find reliable sources that refer to Indic languages as a generic term for all

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages (was Re: Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages)

2012-11-13 Thread Anirudh Bhati
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.comwrote: factually incorrect . Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmic_scripts The article you refer to lacks proper citations. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages (was Re: Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages)

2012-11-13 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/11/14 Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com: The word 'Indic' itself is a derivative of the word Hindus or Indus referring to the Indus Valley Civilization, which did not stretch as far as Deccan India where the Dravidian family of languages have been prevalent. The distinction between the