Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

2011-04-20 Thread Isabell Long
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:27:53PM +0100, James Forrester wrote: > On 20 April 2011 18:04, Isabell Long wrote: > > Suggestions as to how I can get more involved are welcome!  I do plan to > > come to one of the London meetups *soon*.  :-) > > Though I'd be the last to discourage people from comin

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

2011-04-20 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 20 April 2011 22:31, Chris Keating wrote: > Regarding Chris's point about age limits - I am no expert but I imagine the > legal duties of directors mean they need to be over 18? 16, actually. Wikimedia UK has a requirement in its articles that we can't have a majority of the board under 18, th

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

2011-04-20 Thread Gordon Joly
On 20/04/2011 22:27, James Forrester wrote: > On 20 April 2011 18:04, Isabell Long wrote: >> Suggestions as to how I can get more involved are welcome! I do plan to >> come to one of the London meetups *soon*. :-) > Though I'd be the last to discourage people from coming to the meetups > (and es

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

2011-04-20 Thread Chris Keating
> > > Of course! I just find that a lot fewer of my peers (I am only 20) are bold > about their ability to take on big projects than people with a little more > life experience behind them. > > I've worked with local councillors aged between 20 and 85. All the mediocre ones were middle-aged. ;-)

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

2011-04-20 Thread James Forrester
On 20 April 2011 17:59, Chris McKenna wrote: > On Wed, 20 Apr 2011, David Gerard wrote: >> (Sam Korn was on the en:wp arbcom at 16 ...) > > Getting off topic (sorry), but I've just been looking up age limits and > things and in the most recent elections candidates were required to be at > least 18

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

2011-04-20 Thread James Forrester
On 20 April 2011 18:04, Isabell Long wrote: > Suggestions as to how I can get more involved are welcome!  I do plan to > come to one of the London meetups *soon*.  :-) Though I'd be the last to discourage people from coming to the meetups (and especially "my" meetups in London), they are primaril

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

2011-04-20 Thread Gordon Joly
On 20/04/2011 17:26, James Forrester wrote: > Before coming up with our own list of areas of concern, the Equalities > Act sets out[0] nine "protected characteristics" that are worth > considering for scope: > > 1. age; > 2. disability; > 3. gender reassignment; > 4. marriage and civil partnership;

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

2011-04-20 Thread Isabell Long
On 20 Apr 2011, at 17:38, David Gerard wrote: > On 20 April 2011 17:01, Isabell Long wrote: >> On 20 Apr 2011, at 15:29, Fae wrote: > >>> Some folks might have missed that one member taking part at the >>> conference is 12 years old and a well established and respected >>> Wikipedian. > >> Ha

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

2011-04-20 Thread Chris McKenna
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011, David Gerard wrote: > By current standards, you're past it. > > (Sam Korn was on the en:wp arbcom at 16 ...) Getting off topic (sorry), but I've just been looking up age limits and things and in the most recent elections candidates were required to be at least 18. I've not

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

2011-04-20 Thread David Gerard
On 20 April 2011 17:01, Isabell Long wrote: > On 20 Apr 2011, at 15:29, Fae wrote: >> Some folks might have missed that one member taking part at the >> conference is 12 years old and a well established and respected >> Wikipedian. > Hah, I didn't realise that—great!  That makes me feel a littl

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

2011-04-20 Thread James Forrester
On 20 April 2011 16:11, Gordon Joly wrote: > On 20/04/2011 13:06, steve virgin wrote: > > > PS: I am white and middle aged so am guilty as charged!!! > > So far so good. Here is a list > > 1) Gender > 2) Ethnicity > 3) Age > 4) Religion > 5) Disability > 6) Sexual orientation Before coming u

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

2011-04-20 Thread Alex Stinson
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Gordon Joly wrote: > On 20/04/2011 17:09, Alex Stinson wrote: > > > Please participate! Some of the most interesting Wikipedians I have met > are the younger ones amongst us. Also, we youth have a lot more time on our > hands with a lot less obligations, so we c

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

2011-04-20 Thread Gordon Joly
On 20/04/2011 17:09, Alex Stinson wrote: Please participate! Some of the most interesting Wikipedians I have met are the younger ones amongst us. Also, we youth have a lot more time on our hands with a lot less obligations, so we can do more! Alex I am 55 and "semi-retired". Does that count

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

2011-04-20 Thread Alex Stinson
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Isabell Long wrote: > On 20 Apr 2011, at 15:29, Fae wrote: > > Some folks might have missed that one member taking part at the > > conference is 12 years old and a well established and respected > > Wikipedian. > > Hah, I didn't realise that—great! That makes me

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

2011-04-20 Thread Isabell Long
On 20 Apr 2011, at 15:29, Fae wrote: > Some folks might have missed that one member taking part at the > conference is 12 years old and a well established and respected > Wikipedian. Hah, I didn't realise that—great! That makes me feel a little better, having only just turned 17! Isabell. >

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] TheNextWeb: "Wikimedia UK to Hire Full-Time Staff"

2011-04-20 Thread Gordon Joly
On 20/04/2011 13:23, steve virgin wrote: > Well done Martin a great article Apart from the date (it say 17th)? Gordo -- Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com http://www.joly.org.uk/ Don't Leave Space To The Professionals! ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list w

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

2011-04-20 Thread Gordon Joly
On 20/04/2011 13:06, steve virgin wrote: PS: I am white and middle aged so am guilty as charged!!! So far so good. Here is a list 1) Gender 2) Ethnicity 3) Age 4) Religion 5) Disability 6) Sexual orientation See for example: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Governmentcitizensandrights/Y

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Hello from the new Board!

2011-04-20 Thread Gordon Joly
On 20/04/2011 12:09, Chris Keating wrote: > > My view is that this is something we need to address - and in > particular we need to make sure it doesn't become a self-fulfilling > prophecy. > No, but, as a registered charity, seeking funding from UK agencies Gordo -- Gordon Joly gordon.j

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Hello from the new Board!

2011-04-20 Thread Gordon Joly
On 20/04/2011 11:55, James Farrar wrote: > I trust you're not advocating tokenism. The very thought! Gordo -- Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com http://www.joly.org.uk/ Don't Leave Space To The Professionals! ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

2011-04-20 Thread Fae
> that the bias in our membership is a bit more skewed than that (85/15ish). Some folks might have missed that one member taking part at the conference is 12 years old and a well established and respected Wikipedian. By the way, I was one of the candidates and I do not consider myself "white" (or

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

2011-04-20 Thread Patel, Vinesh
We would be very interested in having regular events on campus. We need 2 weeks advanced notice to book rooms and at certain times of the year things are more difficult to do, but we can book rooms in South Kensington, Hammersmith and Acton capacity up to 60 very easily, and more than a 100 with

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

2011-04-20 Thread steve virgin
Tom - perhaps get the guys at the Imperial College Wikipedia Society to give you hand, lend you a room or something else? I can ping Vinesh and put you in touch? -Original Message- From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Beh

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

2011-04-20 Thread Tom Morris
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 13:06, steve virgin wrote: > In terms of this discussion about breaking down diversity barriers, we’ve > had some limited success with the two events we have ran in Bristol > recently: > > http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Wiki_Academy_1 (March 19) > > http://uk.wikimedi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] TheNextWeb: "Wikimedia UK to Hire Full-Time Staff"

2011-04-20 Thread steve virgin
Well done Martin a great article -Original Message- From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Martin Poulter Sent: 20 April 2011 13:05 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] TheNextWeb: "Wikime

[Wikimediauk-l] TheNextWeb: "Wikimedia UK to Hire Full-Time Staff"

2011-04-20 Thread Martin Poulter
Some very positive coverage on technology blog TheNextWeb (a competitor to TechCrunch), which gives a quick overview of what Wikimedia UK has done and is planning to do: http://thenextweb.com/uk/2011/04/20/wikimedia-uk-hires-full-time-staff-aims-to-increase-content-quality-on-wikipedia/ If you w

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

2011-04-20 Thread steve virgin
In terms of this discussion about breaking down diversity barriers, we've had some limited success with the two events we have ran in Bristol recently: http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Wiki_Academy_1 (March 19) http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_UK_2011 (April 16) A larg

[Wikimediauk-l] Diversity of the board

2011-04-20 Thread WereSpielChequers
Well we have geographic and age related diversity. Llinguistic, ethnic and gender diversity would be nice and I hope the board is keen to reach out to the celtic languages, non-native speakers and so forth. Gender diversity is a problem across almost the whole of Wikimedia. Maybe the board can addr

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Hello from the new Board!

2011-04-20 Thread Chris Keating
> > > P.S. Diversity of the board? > There was a bit of a discussion on Twitter on Saturday about the fact that all the candidates were white middle-aged men.* The evidence suggests that most Wikimedians are men (70/30ish?). I had a look at the WMUK membership list to identify gender on the basis

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Hello from the new Board!

2011-04-20 Thread James Farrar
I trust you're not advocating tokenism. On 20 Apr 2011 11:44, "Gordon Joly" wrote: > On 19/04/2011 22:43, Chris Keating wrote: >> >> The new Board is: >> >> Roger Bamkin (Victuallers) - Chair >> Andrew Turvey (AndrewRT) - Treasurer >> Michael Peel (Mike Peel) - Secretary >> Chris Keating (The Land

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Hello from the new Board!

2011-04-20 Thread Gordon Joly
On 19/04/2011 22:43, Chris Keating wrote: The new Board is: Roger Bamkin (Victuallers) - Chair Andrew Turvey (AndrewRT) - Treasurer Michael Peel (Mike Peel) - Secretary Chris Keating (The Land) Martin Poulter (MartinPoulter) Ashley Van Haeften (Fae) Steve Virgin (Steve Virgin) Gentlemen, I exp

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Extending board member terms to two years

2011-04-20 Thread Gordon Joly
On 17/04/2011 02:27, Thomas Dalton wrote: > . You > can't have Articles that depend on Rules - that's backwards! Indeed! Gordo -- Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com http://www.joly.org.uk/ Don't Leave Space To The Professionals! ___ Wikimedia UK mai

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Food Standards Agency expressing interest in academy?

2011-04-20 Thread Martin Poulter
Not sure I parsed your sentence correctly, Roger, but I wouldn't assume that academics are better able than anyone else, or need less training than anyone else, to edit a wiki. On Tue, 19 Apr 2011, Roger Bamkin wrote: > Fae If we split Academia from Education (by the latter I mean teaching > pe