Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

2012-06-13 Thread Gordon Joly
On 13/06/12 18:05, Charles Matthews wrote: On 13 June 2012 17:51, Gordon Joly wrote: On 13/06/12 16:02, Thomas Dalton wrote: This sounds like a fantastic project. Thank you Charles for agreeing to lead it and thank you WMUK for agreeing to support it. What is the current budget? I'm making

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

2012-06-13 Thread Richard Symonds
15k for the whole project, I believe? Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK On Jun 13, 2012 5:52 PM, "Gordon Joly" wrote: > On 13/06/12 16:02, Thomas Dalton wrote: > >> This sounds like a fantastic project. Thank you Charles for agreeing >> to lead it and thank you WMUK for agreeing to support it. >> >

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

2012-06-13 Thread Charles Matthews
On 13 June 2012 17:37, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 13 June 2012 17:11, Charles Matthews > wrote: >>> It might be worth talking to potential accreditors earlier rather than >>> later in the process (although not having already spoken to them two >>> days in is forgiveable!). One thing you'll need t

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

2012-06-13 Thread Charles Matthews
On 13 June 2012 17:51, Gordon Joly wrote: > On 13/06/12 16:02, Thomas Dalton wrote: >> >> This sounds like a fantastic project. Thank you Charles for agreeing >> to lead it and thank you WMUK for agreeing to support it. > > > > What is the current budget? I'm making business cases for deliverable

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

2012-06-13 Thread Gordon Joly
On 13/06/12 16:02, Thomas Dalton wrote: This sounds like a fantastic project. Thank you Charles for agreeing to lead it and thank you WMUK for agreeing to support it. What is the current budget? Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

2012-06-13 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 13 June 2012 17:11, Charles Matthews wrote: >> It might be worth talking to potential accreditors earlier rather than >> later in the process (although not having already spoken to them two >> days in is forgiveable!). One thing you'll need to agree with them in >> the learning objectives, and

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] What is in a name?

2012-06-13 Thread Tom Morris
On 13 June 2012 09:44, Gordon Joly wrote: > Why choose the name "wikimedia" when the public are in general much more > familiar with the term "wikipedia"? Are we guilty of being to close the > issue and not seeing the wider picture (but that was was given as the reason > for the formal name change

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

2012-06-13 Thread Charles Matthews
On 13 June 2012 16:38, Thomas Dalton > It might be worth talking to potential accreditors earlier rather than > later in the process (although not having already spoken to them two > days in is forgiveable!). One thing you'll need to agree with them in > the learning objectives, and they should be

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

2012-06-13 Thread Stevie Benton
If it's useful and relevant, I also have a very good contact with someone at the Chartered Institute of Personnel Development (CIPD) who is very much an advocate of training of this kind and is well connected and pretty influential. It may be something that he'd be interested in supporting on a vol

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

2012-06-13 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 13 June 2012 16:23, Charles Matthews wrote: > No, having started seriously Monday early I haven't got to everything > yet ... let's just say getting quality into teaching material is > probably harder than getting recognition of quality once it's there. It might be worth talking to potential a

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

2012-06-13 Thread Charles Matthews
On 13 June 2012 16:12, steve virgin wrote: > > Thomas > > Good question - it was part of my very initial conversation with the CIPR > (Chartered Institute of Public Relations). That body has certified training > programs for PR professionals all across the United Kingdom in a number of > universit

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

2012-06-13 Thread Charles Matthews
On 13 June 2012 16:02, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 13 June 2012 07:46, Charles Matthews > wrote: >> I have been asked to be project leader for Wikimedia UK's distance >> learning project. Early days. > I have a question that really applies to the whole training > initiative, not just the VLE, but

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

2012-06-13 Thread Charles Matthews
On 13 June 2012 15:46, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > How does it relate to Wikiversity? That's another good point. Wikiversity is a repository of teaching material about all sorts. Moodle is a course management system, and so various things can be done with it (e.g. embed a video clip, set quizzes). I

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

2012-06-13 Thread steve virgin
Thomas Good question - it was part of my very initial conversation with the CIPR (Chartered Institute of Public Relations). That body has certified training programs for PR professionals all across the United Kingdom in a number of universities. They were desperately keen (after this initial post

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

2012-06-13 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 13 June 2012 07:46, Charles Matthews wrote: > I have been asked to be project leader for Wikimedia UK's distance > learning project. Early days. > > [snip] This sounds like a fantastic project. Thank you Charles for agreeing to lead it and thank you WMUK for agreeing to support it. I have a q

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [Antiquist] Fwd: Cultural Heritage seminar on Tuesday 31st July - save the date

2012-06-13 Thread Richard Symonds
I believe John Cummings might be interested in this. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On 12 June 2012 00:37, Andy Mabbett wrote: > Who has interest in 3

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

2012-06-13 Thread Andy Mabbett
I'll read this in full layer (on first glance it looks fine, but I'm mobile). How does it relate to Wikiversity? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

2012-06-13 Thread Charles Matthews
On 13 June 2012 09:55, Gordon Joly wrote: > On 13/06/12 09:30, Stevie Benton wrote: >> >> I agree with everything that Jon said. Editing for the first time is a bit >> daunting, especially for people with zero online publishing experience. > > That's why I have been promoting editing skills on a M

[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Help beat the Snooper's Charter - June 20th

2012-06-13 Thread Jon Davies
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] What is in a name?

2012-06-13 Thread Richard Symonds
Don't worry: We'll be doing that shortly, once Companies House have everything updated at their end. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On 13 June 2012 12:0

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] We are all volunteers!

2012-06-13 Thread Richard Symonds
Thanks for this Gordon! Will take a look once I'm done ringing up a major donor. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On 13 June 2012 10:57, Gordon Joly wrot

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] What is in a name?

2012-06-13 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 13 June 2012 09:44, Gordon Joly wrote: > > At last, the company (a registered charity) is now called "Wikimedia UK". > The name was changed from "Wiki UK Ltd". Various pages on the wiki will need to be changed; for example the chapter's expenses policy. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] What is in a name?

2012-06-13 Thread John Vandenberg
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Harry Burt wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:45 AM, HJ Mitchell wrote: >> >> despite it not having the same 'brand' recognition as the movement's >> flagship project. Its a feature, not a bug. We promote our content more than we promote ourselves. > SOFIXIT

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] What is in a name?

2012-06-13 Thread Gordon Joly
On 13/06/12 09:44, Gordon Joly wrote: Compare and contrast:- 1) Wikipedia 2) Wikimedia 3) Mediawiki OOPS. Forgot Wikileaks. :-) Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] What is in a name?

2012-06-13 Thread Harry Burt
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:45 AM, HJ Mitchell wrote: > despite it not having the same 'brand' recognition as the movement's > flagship project. > SOFIXIT :P No seriously, that's probably the answer, longterm. -- Harry Burt (User:Jarry1250) ___ Wikime

[Wikimediauk-l] We are all volunteers!

2012-06-13 Thread Gordon Joly
FYI. New code of practice for volunteers. http://www.volunteering.org.uk/aboutus/news-releases/2287-working-group-publishes-code-of-practice-for-volunteer Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/ma

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] What is in a name?

2012-06-13 Thread HJ Mitchell
Wikimedia serves as an umbrella term for the entire movement, and since our scope is wider than just Wikipedia, it's an appropriate name, despite it not having the same 'brand' recognition as the movement's flagship project. Harry From: Michael Peel To: UK W

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] What is in a name?

2012-06-13 Thread Michael Peel
Indeed - it's standard practice nowadays to be 'Wikimedia' rather than 'Wikipedia'. If only someone had made this argument when people were coming up with names right at the start of the projects... (The bigger issue here is why 'Wikimedia Commons' rather than 'Wikipedia Multimedia', etc...) T

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] What is in a name?

2012-06-13 Thread John Vandenberg
All chapters are called either 'Wikimedia', 'Wiki' or 'free culture'. On 6/13/12, Gordon Joly wrote: > > At last, the company (a registered charity) is now called "Wikimedia > UK". The name was changed from "Wiki UK Ltd". A former version of the > project was called "Wiki Educational Resources Lt

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

2012-06-13 Thread Gordon Joly
On 13/06/12 09:30, Stevie Benton wrote: I agree with everything that Jon said. Editing for the first time is a bit daunting, especially for people with zero online publishing experience. That's why I have been promoting editing skills on a Mediawiki website first before going into the lion's de

[Wikimediauk-l] What is in a name?

2012-06-13 Thread Gordon Joly
At last, the company (a registered charity) is now called "Wikimedia UK". The name was changed from "Wiki UK Ltd". A former version of the project was called "Wiki Educational Resources Ltd" which is a rather apt name given the current interest in training. This company was dissolved in 2009.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

2012-06-13 Thread Charles Matthews
On 13 June 2012 09:30, Stevie Benton wrote > This is where good communication comes in and I think it has a valuable role > in supporting the work of the trainers. Charles, it would be great to come > and meet with you to discuss the work that's taking place in a bit more > detail and share some i

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

2012-06-13 Thread Charles Matthews
On 13 June 2012 09:19, Jon Davies wrote: > Great to have you steering this Charles. Thanks for your input Jon, as well as support so far. > Lesson - we need to support and protect our newbies. On-line support > material can do this to some extent. 100% agree. In my reply to Gordon I also sugg

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

2012-06-13 Thread Stevie Benton
I agree with everything that Jon said. Editing for the first time is a bit daunting, especially for people with zero online publishing experience. I was quite lucky in that my first edits (of not very many at all, granted) were removing vandalism and I'd worked as an online editor so felt comfortab

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

2012-06-13 Thread Jon Davies
Great to have you steering this Charles. >From my view as someone who has been editing for less than two years and did it in isolation from any other wikimedians I would like to ahre a few thoughts. 1. For me the BIG leap was to understand that I COULD edit. Many, many people think we are a major

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

2012-06-13 Thread Charles Matthews
On 13 June 2012 08:17, wrote: > This sounds rather interesting Charles. Please do bear in mind that > Wikinews can be a good way of opening doors. Thanks. For a journalist I think this is a "man bites dog" story based on Wikimedia not reinventing the wheel, but adapting off-the-shelf technology

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Distance learning project

2012-06-13 Thread brian.mcneil
This sounds rather interesting Charles. Please do bear in mind that Wikinews can be a good way of opening doors. If you can put together a good article on a major cultural event (Examples [1], [2]), then the relevant institutions will be more than happy to keep talking to you. [1] http://en.wikin