Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ODNB missing women in focus

All the articles are described as "about women" by ODNB themselves. James Barry is generally considered a woman, her motivation for assuming male identity is presumed to be the desire to practice medicine. Women historically have passed as men to join male-exclusive professions, though one mi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ODNB missing women in focus

On 3 August 2015 at 11:04, Magnus Manske wrote: > > > Of these, 24 are not women on Wikidata. I mage a PagePile for those: > > https://tools.wmflabs.org/pagepile/api.php?id=251&action=get_data&format=html > > > Rich's list comes well out of closer examination. Some genders were wrong (turns out Ph

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ODNB missing women in focus

On 03/08/15 11:18, Fæ wrote: > In the case of James > Barry, she lived as a man but was born a woman. As this is a > historical case, today's terminology (such as 'transgender') does not > fit well, but certainly Barry can be accurately identified as a woman > and is regularly quoted as having not

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ODNB missing women in focus

On 3 August 2015 at 11:04, Magnus Manske wrote: > > > After some tweaking, I ended up with 6570 names (some of them double, see > above). > > Of these, 3481 matched the ODNB names in mix'n'match. > > Of these, 24 are not women on Wikidata. I mage a PagePile for those: > > https://tools.wmflabs.org

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ODNB missing women in focus

Hi Magnus, > It appears that at least some of the women on your list are not women. > Example from your list: > > # {{User:Rich Farmbrough/ODNB entry|image=1|known for=army medical officer > and transvestite|born=c.1799|died=1865|forenames=James |surname=Barry}} > > "transvestite" does, AFAIK, not

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ODNB missing women in focus

Richard, I tried to extract the names from your list (which was a challenge, given that some are stated with "name", some with "fornames", some "forenames", "surname", not always in that order, "alt name"...) After some tweaking, I ended up with 6570 names (some of them double, see above). Of th

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ODNB missing women in focus

On 3 August 2015 at 08:04, Magnus Manske wrote: > I had hoped we were beyond manual lists and English-Wikipedia-only > mentality... > > They still have their uses, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Charles_Matthews/Longer_DNB and https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiP

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ODNB missing women in focus

I had hoped we were beyond manual lists and English-Wikipedia-only mentality... I'll see if I can run it against my mix'n'match ODNB set, and cross-check with "female" on Wikidata later. On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 1:33 AM rexx wrote: > It's because Rich is using that page as a template to create t

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ODNB missing women in focus

It's because Rich is using that page as a template to create the entries. I assume it's easier for the script that scrapes the database to just supply parameters to a template. The three crosses (or ticks) are for "confirmed", "linked" and "used". HTH -- Rexx On 2 August 2015 at 20:56, Michael

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ODNB missing women in focus

Hi Richard, Your list seems to have some technical problems: most of the entries seem to have many red crosses next to them (for no apparent reason), and the rest seem to blindly link to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Rich_Farmbrough/ODNB_entry

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ODNB missing women in focus

I have a little list https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Rich_Farmbrough/ODNB_articles_on_women_and_girls (needs splitting up because it's so large). Unfortunately I am prohibited from putting this on English Wikipedia. It has been intimated that were I to encourage anyone else to do so

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ODNB missing women in focus

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 2:13 PM Charles Matthews < charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com> wrote: > This comes out as pile 188 for PagePile. If you look at the wikitext on my > page, the data is actually in two columns, Wikidata ID followed by name. > (This is tabbed data, though the first four or so tab

[Wikimediauk-l] ODNB missing women in focus

It is a little while ago now that I was asked, by Roberta Wedge, about the "missing women" on the English Wikipedia, who are identified in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (ODNB). I'm glad to say that, with a recent technical development I now have a list. (Recent means "since this morn