Re: [Wikisource-l] Non Derivative licensed books

2011-06-17 Thread Klaus Graf
I was referring to Wikisource when I answered the question. In a way all source texts needs some editorial curatorship and can be called derivative texts of the authentic original. It is naive and not helpful to think that changing typographic texts in computer texts is'nt making a derivate (even

Re: [Wikisource-l] Non Derivative licensed books

2011-06-17 Thread Tom Morris
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 17:06, Shiju Alex wrote: > I was referring only to Wikisource when I asked this question. In a way all > source texts are ND. We are making sure even the errors in original source > texts are appearing in the Wikisource version. So assumed what prohibits the > ND licensed b

Re: [Wikisource-l] Non Derivative licensed books

2011-06-17 Thread Shiju Alex
Thanks for explaining. I was referring only to *Wikisource* when I asked this question. In a way all source texts are ND. We are making sure even the errors in original source texts are appearing in the Wikisource version. So assumed what prohibits the ND licensed books in wikisource. I was not kn

Re: [Wikisource-l] Non Derivative licensed books

2011-06-17 Thread Klaus Graf
We cannot and should not accept ND. See: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Licensing_policy Even for legal texts there is a need for free translations which are not possible with a ND license. Klaus Graf http://archiv.twoday.net 2011/6/17 John Vandenberg : > ND goes against our ob

Re: [Wikisource-l] Non Derivative licensed books

2011-06-17 Thread John Vandenberg
ND goes against our objectives. http://freedomdefined.org/ Our objective is not only to redistribute works, but also to allow them to be reused (modified). The only example of ND that I think Wikisource could accept is works which are required to be reproduced faithfully by law or similar. For

[Wikisource-l] Non Derivative licensed books

2011-06-17 Thread Shiju Alex
Few Malayalam wikimedians (http://ml.wikisource.org) have raised this issue recently. All the books that we insert in Wikisource are the exact copy of the original source text. We are not making any derivations in the source text. So why we cannot allow ND licensed books in Wikisource. Any though

Re: [Wikisource-l] content ownership

2011-06-17 Thread John Vandenberg
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > 2011/6/17 John Vandenberg : >> An interesting question was posed on foundation-l a few minutes ago. (see >> below) >> >> On English Wikisource, I think there is an unwritten "guideline" that >> the people who start a project do have a limi

Re: [Wikisource-l] content ownership

2011-06-17 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/6/17 John Vandenberg : > An interesting question was posed on foundation-l a few minutes ago. (see > below) > > On English Wikisource, I think there is an unwritten "guideline" that > the people who start a project do have a limited right to "OWN" that > project. > > As it is an unwritten rul

[Wikisource-l] content ownership

2011-06-17 Thread John Vandenberg
An interesting question was posed on foundation-l a few minutes ago. (see below) On English Wikisource, I think there is an unwritten "guideline" that the people who start a project do have a limited right to "OWN" that project. As it is an unwritten rule, I might just be dreaming this. I would