There's an underlying many-to-many relationship between works and edition,
data structure IMHO should be built accordingly with the worst case: an
edition that collects many different works, any of them being published in
many different editions.
At it.wikisource we are going to simplify a little
The issue with the approach is:
* The article page at the WP already exists for notable books, such so does
the WD page, and it will be for the instance of a "book".
* We create "edition" pages, so for notable books we are already at a point
of difference.
Presumably from WP we want the ability
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Andrea Zanni
wrote:
>
> It is solvable, but it is complex.
>
> 3. Qx and/or Qy have an associated (English) Wikipedia page
>
> I think that one of the issues here is the simple fact that the matter is
> complex, and even if you find a solution to the "theory", it
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:16 AM Andrea Zanni
wrote:
> (probably Magnus' mail was not directed to the Wikisource list, I didn't
> receive it).
>
> The problem is that books =/= texts, and we have "many to many"
> relationships at different levels.
>
> > 1. A Wikidata (Qx) item is an edition of an
(probably Magnus' mail was not directed to the Wikisource list, I didn't
receive it).
The problem is that books =/= texts, and we have "many to many"
relationships at different levels.
> 1. A Wikidata (Qx) item is an edition of another Wikidata item (Qy)
> 2. Qx (the edition) has an associated (e
2015-06-29 11:46 GMT+02:00 Magnus Manske :
> Not sure I see the problem.
>
Same for me.
1. A Wikidata (Qx) item is an edition of another Wikidata item (Qy)
> 2. Qx (the edition) has an associated (e.g. English) Wikisource page
> 3. Qx and/or Qy have an associated (English) Wikipedia page
>
It's
2015-06-29 11:30 GMT+02:00 Nahum Wengrov :
> I believe if a work is translated, both copyrights of original author and
> of translator should apply. Is that correct?
>
Yes, both apply to the translation.
> If so, then probably a year for each should be entered.
>
Yes. But that already done in
Not sure I see the problem.
1. A Wikidata (Qx) item is an edition of another Wikidata item (Qy)
2. Qx (the edition) has an associated (e.g. English) Wikisource page
3. Qx and/or Qy have an associated (English) Wikipedia page
All instances of 1&2 can be found like this:
http://wdq.wmflabs.org/api?
Yes, it is right.
But that is solvable with single properties.
Aubrey
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Nahum Wengrov wrote:
> I believe if a work is translated, both copyrights of original author and
> of translator should apply. Is that correct? If so, then probably a year
> for each should b
I believe if a work is translated, both copyrights of original author and
of translator should apply. Is that correct? If so, then probably a year
for each should be entered.
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Nicolas VIGNERON <
vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2015-06-29 11:25 GMT+02:00 Nahum
2015-06-29 11:25 GMT+02:00 Nahum Wengrov :
> @Billinghurst: Pardon my ignorance, but what's VIAF?
>
Virtual International Authority File
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_International_Authority_File
Not 100% sure but I think there is both entries for works and for editions.
Cdlt, ~nicolas
@Billinghurst: Pardon my ignorance, but what's VIAF?
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:18 AM, billinghurst
wrote:
> With the WD methodology for each book there is to be an entry for the book
> as the idea/concept. Then for each edition there is to be a separate entry.
>
> Now the difficulty that I am s
This is the crucial problem with Wikidata and books.
90% of books are easy: "work" is the same as "edition" (eg. "How to get an
Headache with Wikidata", Andrea Zanni, 2015, selfpublished). So it makes
sense to have just an "edition" item on WD, and have all projects link to
that page.
Sometimes
In Wikipedia there would be needed a better "infobox book" that can handle
both work and edition data.
For Wikisource the issue is more complex. I was thinking that since the
"Book Manager v2" extension is supposed to handle data from Wikidata, it
could be used as an entry point to generate the li
With the WD methodology for each book there is to be an entry for the book
as the idea/concept. Then for each edition there is to be a separate entry.
Now the difficulty that I am seeing is that WP links to the book/idea.
Whereas WS links to the edition. So there is no visible relationship from
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