[Wikitech-l] Interwiki conflicts

2009-01-06 Thread Lars Aronsson
I just recently started to play with interwiki.py (Pywikipedia bot framework) for propagating interwiki links. My interest comes from organizing the category tree, so I'm focusing on interwiki links between categories. Interwiki bots normally run in autonomous mode, but this means they give

Re: [Wikitech-l] Interwiki conflicts

2009-01-06 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2009/1/6 Lars Aronsson : > (Lars' interesting insights about Interwiki conflicts...) > ... Have you seen: * http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/A_newer_look_at_the_interlanguage_link * http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Interwiki_synchronization The last one is my own creation, which has surprisingly cau

Re: [Wikitech-l] Interwiki conflicts

2009-01-06 Thread Marco Schuster
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Lars Aronsson wrote: > In the longer term, we need to redesign the interwiki links into a > centralized system, that can be maintained. I think the way to do > this is to use Wikimedia Commons. Instead of copying all the > interwiki links to every language of Wik

Re: [Wikitech-l] Interwiki conflicts

2009-01-06 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2009/1/6 Marco Schuster : > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Lars Aronsson wrote: >> In the longer term, we need to redesign the interwiki links into a >> centralized system, that can be maintained. I think the way to do >> this is to use Wikimedia Commons. Instead of copying all the >> interwik

Re: [Wikitech-l] Interwiki conflicts

2009-01-06 Thread Andre Engels
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Lars Aronsson wrote: > So, my question: > > Has anybody mapped exactly how many such interwiki conflicts we > have? Or how many interwiki sets do we have without conflicts? > Could/should someone make a list of current conflicts and try to > rank them by importan

Re: [Wikitech-l] Interwiki conflicts

2009-01-06 Thread Andre Engels
I might have sounded too negative by including all those problems. I think it would be good to do a search for such conflicts, and I know that several of them CAN be easily corrected. But one should not close the eyes to the fact that there are clear problems. -- André Engels, andreeng...@gmail.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Interwiki conflicts

2009-01-06 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Once again, I'd like to point the interested reader to my own take on the issue of interlanguage links: . I still believe that that would be better than a central place for managing interwikis. In a nutshell: edit locally, l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Interwiki conflicts

2009-01-06 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi! See http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:VolkovBot/conflicts for list of conflicts. VolkovBot is pretty active, so list should be more or less comprehensive. Eugene. On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Lars Aronsson wrote: > > I just recently started to play with interwiki.py (Pywikipedia bot > fr

Re: [Wikitech-l] Interwiki conflicts

2009-01-06 Thread David Gerard
2009/1/6 Lars Aronsson : > Has anybody mapped exactly how many such interwiki conflicts we > have? Or how many interwiki sets do we have without conflicts? > Could/should someone make a list of current conflicts and try to > rank them by importance, so we can get started in fixing them? Someone

Re: [Wikitech-l] Interwiki conflicts

2009-01-06 Thread Daniel Kinzler
David Gerard schrieb: > But basically: treating interwiki links as a 1-1 relationship even > from one wiki to another is horribly unreliable, and assuming you can > go from wiki A to wiki B to wiki C with interwiki links is just not > doable reliably with robots. If you only look at language-links

[Wikitech-l] nstab-main caching

2009-01-06 Thread Remember the dot
Hello, The discussion about nstab-main and the main page has flared up again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Common.js#Main_Page_tab It was suggested in bug 14267 that the contents of nstab-main could be cached with the page title, so that we could include a ParserFunctions workaroun

[Wikitech-l] add media wizard early prototype

2009-01-06 Thread Michael Dale
As part of the sequencer I have been working on an add media wizard to enable the searching and inserting of media to a given sequence. This add media wizard could also serve as an entry point to adding media to pages. == demo == First disclaimer: this is still pretty early on in development m

Re: [Wikitech-l] nstab-main caching

2009-01-06 Thread Tim Starling
Remember the dot wrote: > Hello, > > The discussion about nstab-main and the main page has flared up again: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Common.js#Main_Page_tab > > It was suggested in bug 14267 that the contents of nstab-main could be > cached with the page title, so that we cou

Re: [Wikitech-l] Interwiki conflicts

2009-01-06 Thread Lars Aronsson
Marco Schuster wrote: > Commons has enough to do with keeping metafiles up to date, > they'd be crashed by also having to maintain IW links. I'd > propose a new wiki, to which editors have to apply to get write > access so that vandalism in this critical part is prevented. I think the system n

Re: [Wikitech-l] Interwiki conflicts

2009-01-06 Thread Lars Aronsson
Andre Engels wrote: > Examples of problems are: > * Closely connected subjects (for example, a biological order > and the only family in it, a municipality and its main town by > the same name, a fruit tree and its fruit, a computer game and Such problems certainly exist. But they are not

Re: [Wikitech-l] Interwiki conflicts

2009-01-06 Thread Andre Engels
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:08 AM, Lars Aronsson wrote: > The Category:Politicians in many languages has an interwiki link > to the Armenian (hy:) category for political scientists. I fixed > the English Wikipedia (manually) and the North European languages > (by bot), but some 50 languages remain

Re: [Wikitech-l] Interwiki conflicts

2009-01-06 Thread Andre Engels
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Lars Aronsson wrote: > From a biography of the same president in another language, I can > copy a list of interwiki links. But instead I should just copy a > single, global interwiki pointer. As far as I understand, this is > how the interlanguage extension shoul

Re: [Wikitech-l] Interwiki conflicts

2009-01-06 Thread Andre Engels
There's one problem with these interwiki links that has not yet been mentioned in this thread: Not rarely when I have finally sorted out two subjects, and kept only those interwiki that are to the same subject, someone comes around and tells me that I should not be removing correct interwiki links.