Re: [Wikitech-l] ParserAfterStrip: Bug, deliberate change or incorrect use?

2009-11-12 Thread Mark Clements (HappyDog)
Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote in message news:b4da1c6e0910061725m326860f1i402edfd9e6629...@mail.gmail.com... On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Mark Clements (HappyDog) gm...@kennel17.co.uk wrote: [SNIP - Re: ParserAfterStrip] On MW 1.14 and above the code within the nowiki tags is parsed

[Wikitech-l] memento: time warp for mediawiki

2009-11-12 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Hi all The Memento Project http://www.mementoweb.org/ (including the Los Alamos National Laboratory (!) featuring Herbert Van de Sompel of OpenURL fame) is proposing a new HTTP header, X-Accept-Datetime, to fetch old versions of a web resource. They already wrote a MediaWiki extension for this

Re: [Wikitech-l] memento: time warp for mediawiki

2009-11-12 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.rs wrote: I'd say it is, if sufficiently precise :) MediaWiki only keeps timestamps to one-second precision, so it's not. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] memento: time warp for mediawiki

2009-11-12 Thread Herbert Van de Sompel
hi Daniel, all, Jakob Voss informed me that there had been a posting regarding memento on this list. Since we are very keen on native Memento support for the mediawiki platform, I felt like responding by giving some perspective on Memento in general, and on some questions that were raised

Re: [Wikitech-l] memento: time warp for mediawiki

2009-11-12 Thread Herbert Van de Sompel
On Nov 12, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Platonides wrote: 2.3. We have looked into another issue raised by Jakob: Display deleted pages as they existed at the datetime expressed in X- Datetime- Accept. We have actually implemented this. There are 2 caveats: - as is the case with mediawiki in general,

Re: [Wikitech-l] memento: time warp for mediawiki

2009-11-12 Thread Herbert Van de Sompel
On Nov 12, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Platonides wrote: 2.6. The caching issue is a general problem arising from introducing Memento in a web that does not (yet) do Memento: when in datetime content negotiation mode all caches between client and server (both included) need to be bypassed. As described

Re: [Wikitech-l] memento: time warp for mediawiki

2009-11-12 Thread Harihar Shankar
We have made some updates to the Memento extension and we have also written a fix to perform datetime content negotiation on transcluded templates. Details can be found in the wiki page for the extension http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Memento . Harihar (Los Alamos National Labs)

Re: [Wikitech-l] memento: time warp for mediawiki

2009-11-12 Thread Robert Sanderson
Hi Tim, If there's a problem with viewing past versions of the main page, that's perfectly okay -- it can be excluded from the resources that are datetime content negotiable like the Special: pages. I admit to not following the second issue completely. A regular robot would never issue the

Re: [Wikitech-l] memento: time warp for mediawiki

2009-11-12 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Herbert Van de Sompel hvds...@gmail.com wrote: 2.1. The plug-in detects a client's X-Accept-Datetime header, and returns the mediawiki page that was active at the datetime specified in the header. Same for images, actually. This effectively allows navigating