[Wikitech-l] Wikipedia dumps: nothing happening?

2011-01-06 Thread Neil Harris
It looks like the Wikipedia database dump process is completely idle at the moment, with nothing having changed since the crash. Does anyone know when the dumps are likely to resume, or, if not, what the current status of the work on the dump system is? -- Neil

Re: [Wikitech-l] What do we want to accomplish?

2011-01-06 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
Thinking about this question from the other day and the apparently deep conviction that XML is the magic elixir, I had to wonder: what about the existing Preprocessor_DOM class? I'm asking out of ignorance. I realize a the preprocessor is not the parser, but it does turn the WikiText into a DOM

Re: [Wikitech-l] What would be a perfect wiki syntax? (Re: WYSIWYG)

2011-01-06 Thread Dmitriy Sintsov
* George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com [Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:52:18 -0800]: On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: Original Message - From: Daniel Kinzler dan...@brightbyte.de On 05.01.2011 05:25, Jay Ashworth wrote: I believe the snap reaction

Re: [Wikitech-l] What would be a perfect wiki syntax? (Re: WYSIWYG)

2011-01-06 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com A text-based diff of XML sucks, but how about a DOM based (structural) diff? Sure, but how much more processor horsepower is that going to take. Scale is a driver in Mediawiki, for obvious reasons. I

Re: [Wikitech-l] What would be a perfect wiki syntax? (Re: WYSIWYG)

2011-01-06 Thread Brion Vibber
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com A text-based diff of XML sucks, but how about a DOM based (structural) diff? Sure, but how much more processor horsepower is that

Re: [Wikitech-l] What would be a perfect wiki syntax? (Re: WYSIWYG)

2011-01-06 Thread George Herbert
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: From: George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com I suspect that diffs are relatively rare events in the day to day WMF processing, though non-trivial.

Re: [Wikitech-l] What do we want to accomplish?

2011-01-06 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 11-01-06 10:15 AM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: Thinking about this question from the other day and the apparently deep conviction that XML is the magic elixir, I had to wonder: what about the existing Preprocessor_DOM class? I'm asking out of ignorance. I realize a the preprocessor is not

Re: [Wikitech-l] Expensive parser function count

2011-01-06 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com wrote: Browsing the html code of source pages, I found this statement into a html comment: *Expensive parser function count: 0/500* I'd like to use this statement to evaluate lightness of a page, mainly testing the

Re: [Wikitech-l] What would be a perfect wiki syntax? (Re: WYSIWYG)

2011-01-06 Thread Roan Kattouw
2011/1/6 Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com: Third: the most common diff view cases are likely adjacent revisions of recent edits, which smells like cache. :) Heck, these could be made once and then simply *stored*, never needing to be recalculated again. We already do this for text diffs between

Re: [Wikitech-l] What do we want to accomplish? (was Re: WikiCreole)

2011-01-06 Thread Happy-melon
Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote in message news:32162150.4910.1294292017738.javamail.r...@benjamin.baylink.com... - Original Message - The thing you want expanded, George, is Last Five Percent; I refer there to (I think it was) David Gerard's comment earlier that the first 95%

Re: [Wikitech-l] What do we want to accomplish? (was Re: WikiCreole)

2011-01-06 Thread Neil Harris
On 07/01/11 00:49, Happy-melon wrote: Jay Ashworthj...@baylink.com wrote in message news:32162150.4910.1294292017738.javamail.r...@benjamin.baylink.com... - Original Message - The thing you want expanded, George, is Last Five Percent; I refer there to (I think it was) David Gerard's