Re: [Wikitech-l] Core unit tests passing under HHVM 2.4

2014-02-08 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 08/02/2014 00:14, Tyler Romeo a écrit : Can we maybe add this into Jenkins somehow? It'd be kind of nice if we could make sure from now on that no patches break unit tests in HHVM. Hello, To get HHVM we first need a Debian package so we can get it installed on Ubuntu and it is apparently a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Core unit tests passing under HHVM 2.4

2014-02-08 Thread Tim Landscheidt
Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Can we maybe add this into Jenkins somehow? It'd be kind of nice if we could make sure from now on that no patches break unit tests in HHVM. To get HHVM we first need a Debian package so we can get it installed on Ubuntu and it is apparently a pain to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's improve our password policy

2014-02-08 Thread Tim Landscheidt
Nathan Larson nathanlarson3...@gmail.com wrote: [...] 2) How plausible is this scenario you mention, involving legal action? Has/would the WMF ever take/taken legal action against someone for actions taken with their user account? Why would that happen, when any damage done by a

Re: [Wikitech-l] The Zürich Hackathon and you

2014-02-08 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 02/06/2014 07:17 PM, Quim Gil wrote: Hi, the registration to the Zürich Hackathon will open very soon. \o/ I'm looking forward to this as I plan on bringing along some newbies. * defining the schedule How much of the previous years schedules can be reused? Mark.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's improve our password policy

2014-02-08 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2/7/14, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: If feel like I should reiterate why I proposed this change. Maybe no one cares, but I think it might help convince folks this is NOT an argument for let's reduce user freedom in the name of security. I didn't worked on the RFC because

[Wikitech-l] InstantClick

2014-02-08 Thread Kudu
Hi, Today, I heard about a JavaScript library called InstantClick (http://instantclick.io/). Basically, it's based on the principle that latency is responsible for a lot of the Web's slowness. It also considers that there are about 250ms between hovering over and clicking on a link. Therefore, it

Re: [Wikitech-l] InstantClick

2014-02-08 Thread Jon Robson
Thanks for sharing! This could be really interesting on mobile. We have already been experimenting with touch events rather than traditional events and there is ajax page loading in our mobile alpha https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?mobileaction=alpha (click a link or perform a search to

Re: [Wikitech-l] InstantClick

2014-02-08 Thread Brion Vibber
Indeed, mobile is traditionally the land of terrible latency, so that's a great place to concentrate effort. :) On touchscreen devices of course we don't have hover events as such, but we could do predictive preloading on touchstart, then trigger the load action on touchend. False positives that

[Wikitech-l] Bugzilla downtime: Wed Feb12 22:00 UTC - 01:00 UTC

2014-02-08 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi, bugzilla.wikimedia.org will be unavailable due to maintenance work on Wednesday, February 12th from 22:00 UTC until max. Thursday, February 13th 01:00 UTC. Plans include: * upgrading Bugzilla to newer version * moving Bugzilla to new server * depending on how smooth things go, doing admin

Re: [Wikitech-l] InstantClick

2014-02-08 Thread Erik Zachte
Sounds great. Would it possible to do this in such a way that we can detect in our logs how many page views were requested because of this, and how many were not shown after all, to keep out stats sane? Erik -Original Message- From: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] InstantClick

2014-02-08 Thread Isarra Yos
How much bandwidth would this cost the users? If a mobile user is paying by how much they download, this could well mean they're paying for things loaded in the background - things that they may never even touch. On 08/02/14 19:52, Jon Robson wrote: Thanks for sharing! This could be really

Re: [Wikitech-l] InstantClick

2014-02-08 Thread Brandon Harris
Mobile users don’t have hover effects, and thus can only use this on click, which is how things get loaded anyway. On Feb 8, 2014, at 6:43 PM, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: How much bandwidth would this cost the users? If a mobile user is paying by how much they download,

Re: [Wikitech-l] InstantClick

2014-02-08 Thread Jon Robson
Not true. As Brion pointed out there is ontouchstart. Technically they do have hover events btw - they get triggered on a touch. On 8 Feb 2014 21:04, Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org wrote: Mobile users don't have hover effects, and thus can only use this on click, which is how