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On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Steven Walling wrote:
> Wikitech is great for discussing things with a wider audience especially
> where we need to seek opinions of developers outside the staff.
>
Which is basically almost always :)
>
> No one is suggesting that we should make all decisions vi
On Feb 16, 2014 4:01 PM, "Steven Walling" wrote:
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Greg Grossmeier
wrote:
>
> > See also: The general rule among many engineering departments at WMF is
> > "If it didn't happen on the list (or somewhere similarly public and
> > indexable) it didn't happen."
> >
Firstly apologies if my mail was read as public discussions = bad. That was
not my intention. The fact I am on a vacation and writing emails on a phone
with a heavily bandaged hand (which hurts when i type) surely shows I care
a lot about this matter (and the fact that I am doing so on a phone migh
On 17 February 2014 00:20, Rob Lanphier wrote:
> I made the offer for an in-person conversation because I think I can
> provide our office conversations with a healthy dose of "Helvetica Neue"h
> skepticism, and I suspect Brad will be relieved that it won't be all on him
> to defend his viewpoint
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 4:03 PM, David Gerard wrote:
> On 16 February 2014 23:42, Rob Lanphier wrote:
>
> > For what it's worth, I think I can represent Brad's viewpoint pretty
> well,
> > so if anyone wants to discuss this with me in the office, I'm happy to
> > oblige.
>
>
> Cool, I'll just po
On 16 February 2014 23:42, Rob Lanphier wrote:
> For what it's worth, I think I can represent Brad's viewpoint pretty well,
> so if anyone wants to discuss this with me in the office, I'm happy to
> oblige.
Cool, I'll just pop in. Oh, wait.
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On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Greg Grossmeier wrote:
> See also: The general rule among many engineering departments at WMF is
> "If it didn't happen on the list (or somewhere similarly public and
> indexable) it didn't happen."
>
Wikitech is great for discussing things with a wider audience
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Greg Grossmeier wrote:
> See also: The general rule among many engineering departments at WMF is
> "If it didn't happen on the list (or somewhere similarly public and
> indexable) it didn't happen."
>
> The team I most recently heard champion that rule was the Mob
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Jon Robson wrote:
> Brad since you work for the for the foundation and seem to have a lot of
> expertise in this area and seem to have been one of the more vocal
> supporters of free fonts have you reached out to your work colleagues over
> video conferencing or
> On Feb 16, 2014 2:04 PM, "Jon Robson" wrote:
> >
> > Brad since you work for the for the foundation and seem to have a lot of
> > expertise in this area and seem to have been one of the more vocal
> > supporters of free fonts have you reached out to your work colleagues over
> > video conferenc
On 16 February 2014 23:16, David Gerard wrote:
> On 16 February 2014 22:28, Steven Walling wrote:
>> or David's suspicions about a growing trend of
>> preferring non-free software :P
> No, I'm not in fact joking.
I'm not sure it's so much "preferring" as "not giving a damn", so
please don't p
On 16 February 2014 22:28, Steven Walling wrote:
> or David's suspicions about a growing trend of
> preferring non-free software :P
No, I'm not in fact joking.
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On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Brian Wolff wrote:
> I've seen setiment like this (discuss in person, in hangout, or otherwise
> privately) pop up recently (e.g on [1]). I think attitudes like that are a
> real problem. Supposedly we are an open community. People should be
> entirely prepared to
On Feb 16, 2014 2:04 PM, "Jon Robson" wrote:
>
> Brad since you work for the for the foundation and seem to have a lot of
> expertise in this area and seem to have been one of the more vocal
> supporters of free fonts have you reached out to your work colleagues over
> video conferencing or simila
>
> I have ideas to improve and excel interest in lay people in Gene wiki* by
> including the short interesting video based learning which takes the data
> from Wikimedia and create a short video which helps the people to
> understand easily. I need a help to work on this.*
>
> In this approach I
>It is good to see the way of expression and introduction of others with the
>community
>instead of just changing the name, university and post it after sometime to
>the mailing list.
>Infact I just want to work on my proposal instead of concentrating on
others
>but don't copy the contents from the
Hi Wikitech developers,
I had sent an introductory mail itnroducing myself to the community
around one week before but did not seek any reply from the mentors.
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:50 PM, shubham singhal <
shubham.singhal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Everyone
>
> Firstly I, Shubham would lik
Hi Everyone
Firstly I, Shubham would like to introduce myself to the developers of this
commmunity. I am currently pursuing Computer Science and Engineering at IIT
Roorkee INDIA. I had got a good knowledge of the tools used for the
development of open source
software.
My skills include Programmin
On 16 February 2014 18:04, Jon Robson wrote:
> On a side note software is never final. It is not like we are transitioning
> from a free font to a non free font.
There's been a serious camel's-nose effect of late, with Foundation
developers *really heavily* pushing non-free fonts, formats, etc.
Brad since you work for the for the foundation and seem to have a lot of
expertise in this area and seem to have been one of the more vocal
supporters of free fonts have you reached out to your work colleagues over
video conferencing or similar to understand the problems being hit and
helped them w
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote:
> That's not quite accurate. The new font stack is based on feedback from
> Linux users who preferred that we take advantage of the font-mapping built
> into Linux rather than trying to guess arbitrary fonts that may or may not
> be installed on
On 02/15/2014 09:54 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote:
> Now that I've blamed everyone except for myself, I would like to suggest
> that we stop pointing fingers and get down to brass tacks.
>
> My question for both the designers and the free font advocates is: Are
> there any free fonts that are...
> 1. wid
On 02/16/2014 01:32 AM, David Gerard wrote:
> There are extensions that allow raw HTML widgets, just putting them
> through unchecked. The hard part will be checking. Note that the
> rawness of the somewhat-filtered HTML is a part of WordPress's not so
> great security story (though they've had a l
That is due to Wikimedia Labs currently having a small NFS issue.
Addshore
On 16 February 2014 10:34, David Gerard wrote:
> On 15 February 2014 08:06, Matthew Flaschen
> wrote:
>
> > If you look at the HTML source code of
> > http://parsoid.wmflabs.org/enwiki/Earth , you can see that while it
Greetings,
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski
wrote:
>
> So, if you'd like to thank someone, now is a good time and opportunity to do
> so!
I'd like to thank:
* Tomasz Kozlowski / odder for all his amazing work on Tech News (OMG
appreciation loop!);
* Kunal Mehta / Legoktm
Hoi,
That may seem like a reasonable argument however, the functionality that
ULS provides is related. What is the point of providing input methods when
changes are that you can not read what you are about to write. What is the
point when you cannot select the language you want to use this font, in
[It was meant as a private, but not really secret, reply on the "Should
MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts" thread to reduce traffic a bit. Sorry
about the confusion.]
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On 16 February 2014 18:54, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> ULS is a huge success in doing what it was intended to do. I am afraid that
> we have lost sight of what our primary objective is about.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
TBH we probably lost most of that when everything was rolled into one
gigantic ex
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2014-02-16 11:48 GMT+02:00 Steven Walling :
> > What consideration
> > did the designers give to non-Latin?
>
>
> The beta feature has involved lots of testing in non-Latin scripts.
>
Which non-Latin scripts?
Where can I see the results?
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hi steven, ryan,
thank you so much for jumping in here. could you please elaborate a little
on and in a more structured way:
1. why a change is needed?
2. what are the problems with webfonts?
3. why "ubuntu" (or replace it with any other free font) is not good enough?
4. why there is no budget to
Ryan Kaldari, 16/02/2014 06:54:
Now that I've blamed everyone except for myself, I would like to suggest
that we stop pointing fingers and get down to brass tacks.
Brad's email was a bit caustic but IMHO it wasn't pointing fingers,
unlike yours (though you helpfully pointed fingers towards eve
Hoi,
Loading the Autonym stack was a solution to a much worse problem. When it
is still a problem, it can easily be disabled because having the Autonym
font is not essential. It is there to make things look good.
Having the OpenDyslexic font is essential.
Having the fonts for Hindi, Divehi, Tamil
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:16 AM, David Gerard wrote:
> On 16 February 2014 08:54, Gerard Meijssen
> wrote:
>
> > Working towards a more beautiful viewing experience is a secondary
> > objective. Primary is that our readers and editors can read and edit.
> > ULS is a huge success in doing what it
On 15 February 2014 08:06, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> If you look at the HTML source code of
> http://parsoid.wmflabs.org/enwiki/Earth , you can see that while it is HTML,
> it is carefully augmented with additional information.
Currently giving "Error: EROFS, read-only file system" :-)
- d.
On 14 February 2014 23:40, Lars Aronsson wrote:
> What do you predict we will be using five
> years from now, in 2019? Plain old wikitext,
> VisualEditor, or some other path?
I would hope Wikitext had been stabbed through its black and twisted
little heart, or at least as much as one can reason
On 15 February 2014 20:05, Daniel Kinzler wrote:
> Am 14.02.2014 22:39, schrieb Gabriel Wicke:
>> VisualEditor is an HTML editor and doesn't know about wikitext. All
>> conversions between wikitext and HTML are done by Parsoid. You need
>> Parsoid if you want to use VisualEditor on current wikis.
On 16 February 2014 08:54, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> Working towards a more beautiful viewing experience is a secondary
> objective. Primary is that our readers and editors can read and edit.
> ULS is a huge success in doing what it was intended to do. I am afraid that
> we have lost sight of what
Hoi,
You say "we have failed miserably". Many fonts are mentioned and they are
all for the Latin script. Many fonts are mentioned and you fail to mention
the Open Dyslexic font.
I know from personal experience that Open Dyslexic makes a difference in
being able to read Wikipedia [1]. We know that
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 11:52 PM, Denis Jacquerye wrote:
> Maybe I haven't looked in the right place, but why aren’t webfonts being
> considered?
>
> Webfonts would mean the same fonts can be delivered everywhere, relying on
> installed font only as a last resort.
> There are more options than ju
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