[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Quarterly reviews of high priority WMF initiatives

2014-06-26 Thread Tilman Bayer
Meant to CC Wikitech-l too... -- Forwarded message -- From: Tilman Bayer tba...@wikimedia.org Date: Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quarterly reviews of high priority WMF initiatives To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Minutes and

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Bug Bounty Program

2014-06-26 Thread Tyler Romeo
OK, so really the process that we need here is: 1) Get more people on the security team via NDA and whatnot (sign me up, by the way, obviously) 2) Develop a triage system to quickly investigate and handle invalid and duplicate bugs 3) Determine when and how we’re going to do the program 4) Do

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Bug Bounty Program

2014-06-26 Thread MZMcBride
Tyler Romeo wrote: OK, so really the process that we need here is: 1) Get more people on the security team via NDA and whatnot (sign me up, by the way, obviously) Any process that involves volunteers signing non-public, indefinite vows of secrecy and silence are antithetical to Wikimedia's

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Bug Bounty Program

2014-06-26 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 12:33 AM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: What I mean by that is that being a WMF employee/contractor wouldn't get you any special treatment - trusted people would get special access where needed because they're trusted and have demonstrated their competence. A

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Bug Bounty Program

2014-06-26 Thread Jeremy Baron
On Jun 26, 2014 9:44 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Any process that involves volunteers signing non-public, indefinite vows of secrecy and silence are antithetical to Wikimedia's values and mission. This isn't a cult. Our bedrock principles are open access and transparency. To

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Bug Bounty Program

2014-06-26 Thread Tyler Romeo
I’ll be frank. I care a lot more about the security of MediaWiki as a software product, as well as the security of its customers (both WMF and third-party) than I do about some made-up notion of “open access” to security bugs. I think it makes complete sense to have people with access to

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Bug Bounty Program

2014-06-26 Thread David Gerard
As a third-party user: I completely concur. NDAs for security bug access are pretty much standard, aren't they? - d. On 26 June 2014 15:08, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: I’ll be frank. I care a lot more about the security of MediaWiki as a software product, as well as the

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Bug Bounty Program

2014-06-26 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
I feel like this would result in a ton of reports that say YOU CAN DEFACE THE MAIN PAGE!!! which is editable, if not protected, because it's a wiki. -- Matma Rex ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Bug Bounty Program

2014-06-26 Thread Andre Klapper
A general and boring explanation on how access restrictions are handled/configured in Bugzilla currently. No opinions involved. On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 21:18 -0700, Chris Steipp wrote: There are a few cases where there may be legitimate private data in a security bug (look, sql injection, and

Re: [Wikitech-l] dumps.wikimedia.org, downloads.wikimedia.org downtime Thursday June 26 13.30 UTC

2014-06-26 Thread Ariel T. Glenn
Στις 23-06-2014, ημέρα Δευ, και ώρα 20:56 +0300, ο/η Ariel T. Glenn έγραψε: dumps.wikimedia.org, downloads.wikimedia.org will be down on Thursday June 26 from 13.30 UTC until 14.30 UTC. While we expect the actual downtime to be much less, we're blocking one hour just in case. And Murphy has

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Bug Bounty Program

2014-06-26 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2014-06-26 at 16:17 +0200, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote: I feel like this would result in a ton of reports that say YOU CAN DEFACE THE MAIN PAGE!!! which is editable, if not protected, because it's a wiki. This. I have seen several 'bug reports' in Mozilla Bugzilla by 'security

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Bug Bounty Program

2014-06-26 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 06/26/2014 10:15 AM, David Gerard wrote: NDAs for security bug access are pretty much standard, aren't they? I don't know about standard but they are certainly common in cases where said software has a large installed base and early disclosure of a vulnerability would place them at risk

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Bug Bounty Program

2014-06-26 Thread Chad
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, 2014-06-26 at 16:17 +0200, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote: I feel like this would result in a ton of reports that say YOU CAN DEFACE THE MAIN PAGE!!! which is editable, if not protected, because it's a wiki.

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Bug Bounty Program

2014-06-26 Thread Alex Monk
On 26 June 2014 15:02, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote: On Jun 26, 2014 9:44 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Any process that involves volunteers signing non-public, indefinite vows of secrecy and silence are antithetical to Wikimedia's values and mission. This isn't a

Re: [Wikitech-l] dumps.wikimedia.org, downloads.wikimedia.org downtime Thursday June 26 13.30 UTC

2014-06-26 Thread Ariel T. Glenn
Στις 26-06-2014, ημέρα Πεμ, και ώρα 17:37 +0300, ο/η Ariel T. Glenn έγραψε: Στις 23-06-2014, ημέρα Δευ, και ώρα 20:56 +0300, ο/η Ariel T. Glenn έγραψε: dumps.wikimedia.org, downloads.wikimedia.org will be down on Thursday June 26 from 13.30 UTC until 14.30 UTC. While we expect the actual

[Wikitech-l] Extension Jenkins now use update.php --schema to log SQL

2014-06-26 Thread Antoine Musso
Hello, Earlier today I slightly changed how Jenkins run the MediaWiki extension job. Specifically the way the database is updated. We used to simply: php maintenance/update.php I wanted to log the SQL queries behind added to the database and the script has a --schema option to do just that.

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Bug Bounty Program

2014-06-26 Thread MZMcBride
Marc A. Pelletier wrote: On 06/26/2014 10:15 AM, David Gerard wrote: NDAs for security bug access are pretty much standard, aren't they? I don't know about standard but they are certainly common in cases where said software has a large installed base and early disclosure of a vulnerability would

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Bug Bounty Program

2014-06-26 Thread Luis Villa
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 12:57 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Jeremy Baron wrote: Maybe Max is unaware about https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Volunteer_NDA Err, thanks for the link. As pointed out, that page is less than a week old and had not been advertised or linked from

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension Jenkins now use update.php --schema to log SQL

2014-06-26 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 26/06/2014 21:51, Antoine Musso a écrit : Erik Bernhardson figured out a temporary workaround for Flow: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/142303/ The issue is tracked by https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/67163 Hello, I have commented out the update.php --schema call for now. Ie

Re: [Wikitech-l] First _draft_ goals for WMF engineering/product

2014-06-26 Thread Erik Moeller
As an update on the goals process for WMF engineering, we've begun fleshing out out the top priorities for the first quarter. Going forward, we'll aim to call out the top priorities for each quarter as we approach it, to create more shared visibility into the most urgent and high-impact projects