Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-20 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 2:08 PM Pine W wrote: > :) Structured data exists regarding many other subjects such as books and > magazines. I would think that a similar approach could be taken to > technical debt. I realize that development tasks have properties and > interactions that change over tim

[Wikitech-l] Comments and questions regarding VisualEditor, Citoid, and Parsoid

2019-03-20 Thread Pine W
I'd like to say thanks to the folks who have been working on VisualEditor, Citoid, and Parsoid in the past few years. When I first started to work in 2015 on what I eventually called the LearnWiki project

Re: [Wikitech-l] OOUI question

2019-03-20 Thread Moriel Schottlender
Hi Huji, I took a look, and it seems you're missing the command to actually open the dialog. Your code builds the dialog correctly, and then attaches the windowManager and adds the dialog to the window, but there's no command telling the manager to open the dialog on click. I tried to debug your

[Wikitech-l] OOUI question

2019-03-20 Thread Huji Lee
Hi everyone! I am pretty sure I am missing something obvious here, but I cannot spot it and I would appreciate a fresh set of eyes looking at it. The script at https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Huji/UserMessages.js is the backbone of a OOUI-based tool. I have made quite a few of a these tools in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-20 Thread Nick Wilson (Quiddity)
Pine, please see the exact (quite precise) definition of https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/technical_debt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_debt https://martinfowler.com/bliki/TechnicalDebt.html I.e. Technical debt is Not at all equivalent to "bugs". The topic is a tangential one. Software can w

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-20 Thread Pine W
:) Structured data exists regarding many other subjects such as books and magazines. I would think that a similar approach could be taken to technical debt. I realize that development tasks have properties and interactions that change over time, but I think that having a better quantitative underst

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-20 Thread David Barratt
> > I would prefer to have a way to measure technical debt and how it is > changing. > I think the entire software industry would prefer to have that, but as far as I know, that type of measurement does not exist. On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 4:23 PM Pine W wrote: > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 4:16 PM G

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-20 Thread Pine W
On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 4:16 PM Gergő Tisza wrote: > On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 3:01 PM Derk-Jan Hartman < > d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Last year has seen a lot of focus on Technical Debt. WMF also has a core > > platform team now, which finally allows a more sustainable chipping awa

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit outage

2019-03-20 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 06:56:19PM +, Pine W wrote: > I'd like to give a quick thanks to folks who have been dealing with > turbulence. Me too. It's inspirational and awe-inspiring to see people work on this. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit outage

2019-03-20 Thread Pine W
I'd like to give a quick thanks to folks who have been dealing with turbulence. I think that short term mitigation measures sound reasonable, while longer term improvements are planned and developed. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) __

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2019-03-20 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

2019-03-20 Thread Leszek Manicki
Hi, thanks for the notes, Željko. A quick question about SRE callout: "Goal planning ongoing but inevitably partly delayed, SRE asks for your requests for next quarter.". Where those requests should be addressed to? Regards, Leszek Manicki On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 at 17:28, Željko Filipin wrote:

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Wikidata now officially has more total edits than English language Wikipedia

2019-03-20 Thread Emilio J . Rodríguez-Posada
El mié., 20 mar. 2019 a las 7:48, Ariel Glenn WMF () escribió: > Only 45 minutes later, the gap is already over 2000 revsions: > > [ariel@bigtrouble wikidata-huge]$ python3 ./compare_sizes.py > Last enwiki revid is 888606979 and last wikidata revid is 888629401 > 2019-03-20 06:46:03: diff is 22422

[Wikitech-l] 2019-03-20 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

2019-03-20 Thread Željko Filipin
For HTML version see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Scrum_of_scrums/2019-03-20 =2019-03-20= == Callouts == * Fundraising campaigns https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CentralNotice/Calendar * From RI, to RelEng(?): Does anyone know definitively whether enabling an extension in the Beta Cluster requir

[Wikitech-l] Small change to wmf apache log format

2019-03-20 Thread Alexandros Kosiaris
In light of the gerrit incidents these last few days, and as part of the process of strengthening gerrit's operational security, we 've just gone ahead and configured gerrit to add the User: HTTP header on the response. To take advantage of that, we 've also amended the wmf apache LogFormat directi