Hello everyone,
As this is my first post to the mailing list, let me introduce myself shortly.
My name is Jan Paul Posma, and I'm a 20 year old Computer Science student from
the Netherlands. I was introduced to MediaWiki by Roan Kattouw, contractor for
the Usability Initiative, who
On 10-Aug-2010, at 11:05, Roan Kattouw wrote:
> 2010/8/10 Andrew Garrett :
>> I do notice that the "Preview" button for sentence-level editing
>> doesn't quite work (it shows the old text). There's some stuff
>> missing, but I assume that this is because it's not finished yet.
Ah, I guess I wasn'
> Interesting.
> I find the switch to 3row textarea from content a little jarring. A
> further developed version could make use of contentEditable to provide
> the same editing ability but without the negative side effects of the
> textarea.
Actually, showing the original wikitext is one of the g
> This is definitely a huge step in the right direction.
Thanks everyone for the positive feedback!
> Aside from the simplicity of just editing sentence by sentence, I like the
> massive help section you added at the top. We have to assume that the average
> contributor hasn't made more than a
I suppose I just go on and build it as an extension then. ^_^
Again, if you have suggestions or want to join in development or anything else,
feel free to mail.
Best regards, Jan Paul
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> You've already applied for commit access right? Did you apply for
> extension access or core access?
Actually, I didn't say it explicitly, but I mentioned "Sentence-level editing",
so that would be an extension.
> If and when you get commit access for extensions, you're encouraged to
> develo
gt;
>> Tim Starling wrote:
>>> Extension access:
>>> * Jan Paul Posma (janpaul123): Sentence-level editing
>>
>> This is awesome. I really enjoyed the proof-of-concept. :-)
>>
>> MZMcBride
>>
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Whoops, I meant to address this mail to wikitech-l, not wikitext-l. ;-)
Regards, Jan Paul
> Hello,
>
> In commit 72458 I've added the InlineEditor extension. [1] This extension is
> a working implementation of the prototype(s) earlier posted on this list.
> It's not actually for use on live wi
Hi all,
As presented last Saturday at the Hack-A-Ton, I've committed a new version of
the InlineEditor extension. [1] This is an implementation of the sentence-level
editing demo posted a few months ago.
Basically what this new version does is building a tree structure from all the
markings. T
ey are in Dutch, though.
You can try the editor with block edit options at
http://janpaulposma.nl/sle/wiki. It's still work in progress: do expect to run
into bugs that I did not find worthy to fix yet. :)
Best regards,
Jan Paul Posma
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Thanks for the replies!
There's a few hours of video material, so that might be a bit too much to
subtitle. Perhaps I'll find the time to make a compilation of the highlights,
though.
> A few points which may or may not have been raised before:
> * I think editing inline like this eliminates or
Hi all,
A short note for everyone interested in usability testing: the videos of the
usability testing of sentence-level editing are available on Wikimedia Commons.
Videos are in Dutch, transcripts/notes are in English.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Sentence-level_editing
Best wis
> What I would like is some discussion about
> * if this approach (working pseudo-WYSIWYG instead of unattainable
> perfect WYSIWYG) is the way to go
> * if the code I wrote would be a suitable basis for a system we can
> throw at the general public
> * if anyone is willing to help me with that
>
A very generous offer indeed!
My own SLE and Magnus' WYSIFTW are indeed the most active projects, so that
would be a good bet. Actually, for me the timing is just right, as I'll be
working on a paper about this editor for a while, so it'd be cool to have
someone(s) continue the project. If one
As I am located
> in Athens, my waking hours are around East European Time.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Panos.
>
> On Jan 19, 2011, at 3:54 PM, Jan Paul Posma wrote:
>
>> A very generous offer indeed!
>>
>> My own SLE and Magnus' WYSIFTW are indeed the most
so that should work.
>
> Cheers,
> Magnus
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Jan Paul Posma wrote:
>> Skype sounds great! Also, I heard you work with Ariel, which is great
>> because that way you have a more local person to contact with MediaWiki
>> questio
e
> solutions that we may explore, or any arguments for (2) and (3).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Panos.
>
> On Jan 21, 2011, at 4:07 PM, Jan Paul Posma wrote:
>
>> So a few minutes ago we've had a conversation about this. Panos will set up
>> a public collaborat
> We could, if the people captured agree. Two caveats:
>
> (1) Much of the audio could be all Greek to most.
>
> (2) Does releasing to Wikimedia Commons requiring transcoding to an open
> format?
>
> On Jan 22, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Jan Paul Posma wrote:
>
>> I used the op
Hey all,
I've been working on the InlineEditor extension again, primarily working on a
new interface that doesn't use the different edit modes anymore, as the
usability testing showed that this was not the right approach. Luckily, without
a change in the underlying algorithms, it was doable to
> We have found few bugs and enhancements to be reported.
> What is the appropriate component for this project.
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensions
> I cannot locate InlineEditor. Inline scripts if the correct component?
Ah, looking forward to see what
On 27-Jan-2011, at 0:04, Platonides wrote:
> Jan Paul Posma wrote:
>
>>> I completely missed the "You can edit the article below, by clicking on
>>> blue elements in the page." line. Only found after thinking "this needs
>>> some kind of notice on
> Few bugs and a enchantement are reported.
> We will continue with bit of boundary testing.
Thanks! :)
> Is it a good idea to keep a track of enhancements/bugsposted by others?
> I mean recording them in Bugzilla
I'll add the suggestions of the mailinglist to bugzilla somewhere next week.
Ja
Usually I don't reply that much on other threads, but for this: +1.
Jan Paul
On 31-Jan-2011, at 22:55, Trevor Parscal wrote:
> Adding yet another discreet parsing step is the reverse of what a lot of
> people hoping to clean up wikitext are heading towards.
>
> What some of us have been kickin
Hey Janesh,
> We tested inline edior installation too.
> http://www.pragmatictestlabs.com/pragmaticwiki/
Great! The bugs you filed in Bugzilla will be looked at by GRNET developers
soon. :) I'll also add some suggestions and bugs from the mailinglist to
Bugzilla this weekend. Thanks again for t
Hey Sagie,
Indeed, thanks for your interest in doing a MediaWiki GSoC project!
Benedikt already said a bit about in-line editing for MW/SMW. It started out as
a research project, but last months there has been some real progress to make
it into a usable extension, eventually (hopefully ;)) to b
Yeap, building on WikiEditor stuff is always a good idea!
Though, in my experience with the InlineEditor extension, it's quite hard if
you want to build a totally different interface. It would be awesome to
refactor EditPage sometime to make this easier, and to provide a nice
preference with a
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