It's a big shame. It should be a priority.
Example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:LinkSearch?target=en.m.wikipedia.org
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is full of spam.
Another list exists, called "discovery", but not listed on Meta.
https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/discov...@lists.wikimedia.org/
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tor search" are not mentioned there, but a vector search could
have found the "ML-enabled natural language search" that is mentioned.
If and when this is tried, we will need to evaluate how well it works for
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ere any ongoing work at WMF or around the Mediawiki software
to apply this new technique to search in Wikipedia?
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place, free for all, how will anybody
know that it saves them dozens of hours? This is the big
question that we should focus on answering.
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(And that Wikisource would have picked up, if it were
started today, instead of developing its own extension.)
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2. How well does this image depict XYZ?
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ike these,
not in the same category, just similar photos.
Surely, such a search function could be implemented
in 2020, in addition to our current text search?
Hasn't anybody done this already?
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problem on Commons. (But since I can view the local files,
I assume the files are okay.)
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ding the stdout from bunzip.
So has anybody already written a program that reads through the
XML dump of articles and their history, and generates statistics
of this kind?
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#x27;t make much sense to me. It's as if red/blue links were
expensive, and most of our list pages should be banned.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions#.23ifexist
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Note that Unicode doesn't contain accented versions
of Cyrillic letters. Instead, the accent is made
by suffixing a separate accent sign.
$ echo "и" | od -c
000 320 270 \n
$ echo "и́" | od -c
000 320 270 314 201 \
ested, first on some smaller
wikis, and gradually on the larger ones.
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f...@gmail.com?
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el of detail in documentation?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Still_Life_with_Fruit-Laden_Bike_-_Medina_%28Old_City%29_-_Rabat_-_Morocco.jpg
Here's a bicycle with red flowers, now categorized,
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Xe_%C4%91%E1%BA%A1p_ch%E1%BB%9F_h%C3%A0ng.jpg
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years ago. But what
algorithms are there for finding images?
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means: hello!)
into English in such a system, it will say "health",
since the same word also means health, and EU
texts only talk about healthcare, never "hello".
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came back yesterday
to ask where we are now.
Do we have any guidelines for how to hand-write the
source code of SVG diagrams? Should we?
Maybe this is related to Wikidata?
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these rules actually has resulted
in any penalty? Has it ever been taken to court?
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and
refused to listen to sound advice, but now
we know the outcome.)
What do you predict we will be using five
years from now, in 2019? Plain old wikitext,
VisualEditor, or some other path?
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ve seen of DBpedia is much more
primitive than this.
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s possible?
http://toolserver.org/~quentinv57/tools/sulinfo.php?username=LA2
"There are no unattached account with this username."
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( function() {
return jQuery( "⎆)" )
.attr( "href", "//sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Linksearch/" + this.href )
.before( " " );
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es on sv.wikipedia
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me up, only not so often. And
some manually written article stubs are also less wanted.
Perhaps the random function should be weighted by
article length or by the number of page views? But is
it practical to implement such a weighted random
function? Are the necessary data in the database?
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gle has released its ngram
dataset. I'm not sure if it covers Swedish, but even
if it does, it must differ from the corpus frequencies
published by the Swedish Academy.
It is relatively easy to extract a list of existing entries
from Wiktionary. But to prepare a given text corpus
for
nk of the dynamic
effects that were unleashed in 2001 when wiki
replaced the formalism of Nupedia, and how all this
code review formalism holds creativity back.
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heading is short, it is useful to put the __TOC__ in a
right-floating table, so the user doesn't have to scroll very
long to find the first text:
{| align=right
|-
| __TOC__
|}
Here is one example,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1951_in_comics
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on that user. Wikipedia should provide knowledge, not
hide it.
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tics is not strictly
"tech", but all of it, including outreach, is "meta".
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shift in
OpenStreetMap, I think we should use cc0 as
far as we can. It remains my suggestion that
any tool should demand cc0, but of course that
will be the choice of the tool developer.
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uld try
to collaborate with them.
However, when I try it, it says "Oops! The recorder
is having a fix. Please, try again later. Thanks..",
both yesterday and today.
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orts uploading of a file, but I don't
know how to solve the recording of sound directly to
a web service. Perhaps this could be a Skype application?
I have no idea. Please just be creative. It should be
solvable, because this is 2013 and not 2003.
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la}}
where "STANDARDSORTERING" is Swedish for DEFAULTSORT,
and there is no "Þ" (Icelandic Thorn) in sight.
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(ironically in Liquid Threads) is found here,
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Thread:User_talk:Yair_rand/Comment_gadget
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ider "has been viewed 12
times in the last 30 days", but only by bots?
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acantheis_variatus
http://stats.grok.se/nl/latest/Acantheis_variatus
Bots creating articles and bots reading them, what a joke!
And they are creating articles about spiders!
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is probably the background noise from bots.
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y.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Top_1_(Dansk).
So are there some stupid bots that follow red links?
There could be a large number of such accesses
on Wiktionary (in any language) because there
are so many red links. But bots should never be
counted among the page views.
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ny project.
If you look at the log files for just one day, you should
see my IP address (85.228.something) and 3-4 other users
who have been editing lately, and not many more people,
but perhaps a bunch of interwiki bots.
We need an explanation to these vastly inflated page view
statistics.
r edits in the Recent Changes.
I think you can go forward if you accept that there are
some bots that run like a machinery, according to the
rules, and other bot accounts that are used like a more
advanced browser for a creative and spontaneous user.
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that I apply for bot status when using it (except
on Commons, where it has 5,000 edits without bot
status), and so I think up some good idea and apply
for bot status, which is almost always granted.
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hat
might be correct for some bots, but not for all. Many users
have a bot account that they use for various purposes at
various times. Trying to build them into a control panel is
just as unlikely to succeed as trying to schedule regular
users. Which articles do you plan to edit next Tuesday,
necting to prototype.wikimedia.org ..."
This was observed on sv.wikipedia.org.
Several other gadgets work just fine.
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way to make
it stick?
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out bot visits?
In other news, this page has a weekly pattern of real,
human visitors, since it is a radio quiz where lots of
listeners are known to use google searches,
http://stats.grok.se/sv/latest90/Melodikrysset
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tware project where a fully decentralized git
solution was impractical, e.g. because pulling in the daily
updates took more than an hour on your available bandwidth?
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when they are frustrated waiting for an analysis
taking 15 minutes for Norwegian, that they will find
smarter algorithms that will enable them to take on
the larger languages.
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replaced by Git, but perhaps
that's just for MediaWiki core?
Most likely, I'll just use my user page on meta.
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content namespaces by the API. Shouldn't they be?
Is anybody else doing similar things? Do you have opinions on what should
count as content? Should I submit my script (300 lines of Perl) somewhere?
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it is fully decentralized and
asynchronous, and how bad it was to work with SVN. The other
story is gerrit, and how everything must now go through this
bottleneck of new centralization. There's a conflict here, that
needs to be sorted out. Does Linus Torvalds really use gerrit?
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"preview for mobile".
Not everybody would have to use that, but those interested in
helping out could do so.
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link to a particular Wikisource page?
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e to add links to Wikipedia, not just the 30 seconds
to edit the page, but perhaps 30 minutes to find the relevant
article and the relevant webpage to link to. Can you speed up
that process, without getting questions about link spamming?
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Pro
ot traffic.
(Are we competitors? Really not. We're both liberating
content. Swedish Wikipedia has more external links
to runeberg.org than to any other website.)
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Project Runeberg - free Nordic literat
on-contributors, and present page views from each
category?
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= 40). By using base36, the first million URLs can be
represented by strings of 4 characters, rather than 6 digit decimal numbers.
The result is a shorter URL, not a human computable, intuitive transform of
the original URL.
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2014, and then discontinue
H.264 playback in 2015, we could be in for a real backlash.
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http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sibyllegatan-2011-04-16.ogv
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Strandv%C3%A4gen-2011-04.ogv
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need to be experts on
shooting the video, and not on running all the Linux commands
to convert between formats.
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gs, because it only shows "NEW",
ASSIGNED, and REOPENED, but not UNCONFIRMED.
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on,
http://ru.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%A1%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0%3AGeo_stat_rus_imp_4.djvu%2F863&diff=702229&oldid=701373
The large print is the text of an encyclopedic article.
The small print is the list of literature references.
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sn't live up to my expectations.
It feels more like some hobby project in 2002. I'm a great fan
of hobby projects, but with the current budget of WMDE and WMF,
I thought we would have reached a higher ambition level by now.
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main developer. Even today, as we lament the decline in
contributors, how can it not be important to fix LiquidThreads?
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in the image. (And timed text is tied to a time position in
a video stream.) So why are they separate systems?
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36,dewiki
141,enwiki
27,eswiki
20,frwiki
13,huwiki
14,itwiki
10,jawiki
13,nowiki
10,ptwiki
19,ruwiki
13,shwiki
14,svwiki
12,trwiki
To find and update these links, use the [[Special:Linksearch]] page.
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were used.
For example, when editing an article on Moscow, if Cyrillic
names of suburbs are mentioned in the article, the Cyrillic
characters would appear in the editing interface (but not
Greek, Arabic or Japanese).
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your
information about planned maintenance could be shown as
a warning: "Please edit, but be careful".
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gzilla report that
this should rather be based on the "what links here" table?
Wiktionary entries for inflected forms link back to the main entry
using templates, of course. One example is {{plural of|goose}}.
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one of these pages get much traffic. Are the completion
suggestions based on traffic stats? In this case, link
count might be a better predictor for best suggestion,
since all derived forms link back to the basic form.
Not much traffic: 5 page views in 30 days,
http://stats.grok.se/en.d/late
On 10/12/2011 01:18 AM, K. Peachey wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Lars Aronsson wrote:
>> The Swedish Wikisource community has decided not to file any
>> bug report for the fact that LiquidThreads has again crashed
>> after the upgrade to MediaWiki 1.18.
>
>
t see
how LiquidThreads could ever become a reliable system, so
we will just pretend it never existed.
I'm personally very sorry and wish to apologize if my early
enthusiasm for LT gave anybody else the false impression that
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's bad enough
that the banner or site notice arrives 10 seconds after the first load,
and jerks the page around. It should be possible to allow a fixed size
space for the banner, and allow it to be delayed without jerking. This
includes the rearrangement of the menu to the left, and
ample is shown at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:LA2
Possibly, the template should also receive, as another parameter,
the distance to the next sort key, which could be useful for
placing items on a scale.
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On 05/11/2011 12:09 AM, Chad wrote:
> Semantic MediaWiki
Do you have a URL where I can see this scrolling?
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es because
we have no better way. A possible extension is
2-dimensional ranges, for geographic coordinates.
Does any extension like this already exist?
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your larger problem is that the passengers
are now much more happy with the old train. I can't
see any enthusiasm left in sv.wiktionary or sv.wikipedia
for switching to Liquid Threads. So, no hurry at all.
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ready been
answered by the fact that no comment has been given to
the bug report of February 16, not even a time estimate.
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000) in the order they were created.
Start reading from the beginning of the XML dump,
http://dumps.wikimedia.org/backup-index.html
The order articles appear there is mostly the
creation date, except for the first year (2001),
where it is a little more random.
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shrink to +1 and +2.5 seconds. But there are
still inexplicably long gaps between elements.
If all images are loaded after 1.4 seconds,
why does collapsibleNav start loading at +2.5?
This Javascript is going to rearrange the
left margin menu, so I'm likely to hit the
wrong link when I want
?
Now, if a woman uses a male pseudonym,
she would obviously self-declare as a man,
so we can't know if this correlates to real
gender. We could only measure the setting.
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contributors. These might be
100 out of 1,000 registered users or 100 out of
10,000 who thought about registering, or 100 out
of 5,000 who went half-way through registration.
The constant is 100 and the other number is
quite arbitrary. Any statistic based on that
arbitrary number is bound to be bad
claim that they too
could have built Wikipedia, if it only were more structured.
They are wrong, of course. Lack of structure is precisely
what built Wikipedia.
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d to
new elections, new buildings, new institutions. Most
edits have nothing to do with the flat geography.
So could the history view of maybe 5000 edits
be quickly reduced down to 50 edits or even 5?
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or on demand, using the edit
index as a cache of such parameters.
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CS, which is
functionally equivalent to the version control in MediaWiki.
In RCS,tracing when, how and by whom a particular piece of
code was altered (i.e., who introduced that bug) is as hard
as it now is in MediaWiki.Do any of the newer systems (SVN,
Git, ...) or commercial integrated development env
and get a
reduced history view with only those edits that changed
that part of the page. What sorts of indexes would be needed
to facilitate such a search? Has anybody already implemented
this as a separate tool?
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categories, but
most of the rest seem to build on quite similar ideas.
[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Eventualism
[2] http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategori:F%C3%B6retag_bildade_1974
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ve is to make bureaucracy so
slow and rigid (and our discussions derailed, like now)
that more people will leave WMF projects. But this is
not enough to create a working alternative.
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wikisource-20100307-pages-meta-history.xml.bz2'
100%[==>] 95,974 156K/s in 0.6s
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took four months
because the software wasn't ready for launch, but
that excuse is not valid anymore.
Pt.wikipedia is also waiting, since Augusti 28,
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24971
What's up? Anybody home?
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ite in the
site request in Bugzilla?
Yes, we have discussed this and there is a broad consensus
on the Swedish Wikipedia village pump,
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bybrunnen#Avskaffa_svenska_bildbeskrivningssidorna
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this should be a task for the paid staff, but so far
it has not been.
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on on the access log format here,
http://www.archive.org/details/wikipedia_visitor_stats_200712
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ck to monobook, so don't tell me. I just wanted
to report this. Perhaps there's some part of vector that can be
improved.
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On August 9, John Vandenberg wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote:
>> Is there any good free software for aligning parallel texts and
>> extracting translations? Looking around, I found NAtools,
>> TagAligner, and Bitextor, but they require texts to be
eb 2.0, map-style scrolling through that sequence
can be a way to overcome the delay between fast mechanical
scanning and slow manual proofreading.
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