Re: [Wikitech-l] Remote hackathon (May 9 - 11, 2020)

2020-04-27 Thread Petr Bena
Looking forward to remote beer tasting! Send a list before so I can prepare. Also someone let Siebrand know about this :D On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:50 PM RhinosF1 - wrote: > > Added, let the fun begin! > > On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 14:44, Andre Klapper wrote: > > > Heja, > > > > On Mon, 2020-04-20

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is "revision slot" and why is it necessary to specify it now?

2020-04-06 Thread Petr Bena
6, 2020 at 3:54 PM Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 5:24 PM Daniel Kinzler wrote: >> >> Am 05.04.20 um 23:18 schrieb Petr Bena: >> > But still, I am curious what is the recommended approach for someone >> > who wants to develop their appl

Re: [Wikitech-l] What is "revision slot" and why is it necessary to specify it now?

2020-04-05 Thread Petr Bena
k in progress. While support is not complete in all parts > of > MediaWiki, the storage layer has been implemented and the database has been > migrated to the new system. > > Am 05.04.20 um 22:17 schrieb Petr Bena: > > Hello, > > > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wi

[Wikitech-l] What is "revision slot" and why is it necessary to specify it now?

2020-04-05 Thread Petr Bena
Hello, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Revisions mentions "revision slots" multiple times, but fails to explain what it is? I noticed that some queries that were running fine in the past now have warning: "Because "rvslots" was not specified, a legacy format has been used for the output. This

Re: [Wikitech-l] Change to Wikitech logins: Username now case-sensitive

2019-04-16 Thread Petr Bena
NVM, I just figured out that MW and Gerrit was creating duplicated accounts due to this On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 3:16 PM Petr Bena wrote: > > Hello, > > What was the reason for this change? What does it improve or fix? > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 3:00 PM Andrew Otto wr

Re: [Wikitech-l] Change to Wikitech logins: Username now case-sensitive

2019-04-16 Thread Petr Bena
Hello, What was the reason for this change? What does it improve or fix? On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 3:00 PM Andrew Otto wrote: > > Great! Is this just for Wikitech itself or all ldap/wikitech > authentication? > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 7:56 PM Bryan Davis wrote: > > > A change was deployed to

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

2018-08-15 Thread Petr Bena
ast time I checked. On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 7:45 PM, Bence Damokos wrote: > Pedants? > Prescriptivists? Etc... https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/grammar_Nazi > > > On Wed, 15 Aug 2018, 18:10 Petr Bena, wrote: > >> Out of curiousity, how would you say "grammar nazi"

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

2018-08-15 Thread Petr Bena
h…I’d go with > bully. > _ > > Joe Matazzoni > Product Manager, Collaboration > Wikimedia Foundation, San Francisco > mobile 202.744.7910 > jmatazz...@wikimedia.org > > "Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

2018-08-15 Thread Petr Bena
2018 om 18:10 heeft Petr Bena het volgende >> geschreven: >> >> Out of curiousity, how would you say "grammar nazi" or "language nazi" >> with absence of word "nazi" so that it still has same effect and >> doesn't sound dull? > > A per

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

2018-08-15 Thread Petr Bena
Out of curiousity, how would you say "grammar nazi" or "language nazi" with absence of word "nazi" so that it still has same effect and doesn't sound dull? On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 8:31 AM, Bináris wrote: > 2018-08-13 18:35 GMT+02:00 Petr Bena : > >> I

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

2018-08-14 Thread Petr Bena
other and the less powerful person in any conflict. We have a duty to >> > speak up, a duty to keep abusers from their target, we own this social >> > space and have to maintain it together. If you see where I'm headed? >> > Rewriting the CoC in a positive rights framew

Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

2018-08-13 Thread Petr Bena
I am a bit late to the party, but do we seriously spend days discussing someone being banned from a bug tracker just for saying "WTF", having their original comment completely censored, so that the community can't even make a decision how bad it really was? Is that what we turned into? From highly

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making two factor auth less annoying

2018-08-12 Thread Petr Bena
Oh and I totally forgot to include link to phab task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T201784 On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Petr Bena wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to do some major changes to two factor auth. I am cross > posting this on phabricator and the mailing list to

[Wikitech-l] Making two factor auth less annoying

2018-08-12 Thread Petr Bena
Hello, I would like to do some major changes to two factor auth. I am cross posting this on phabricator and the mailing list to give it some more attention and to start some proper discussion before anyone starts working on this: Right now there are only two options for two factor

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Cloud] Help us build Toolhub

2018-06-14 Thread Petr Bena
Hello, Interesting, but I think that more data should be collected about the tools, especially the technologies and programming languages used, so that another similar portal could be built with these data for programmers / volunteers looking for a technical project to work on. IDK what is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please comment on the draft consultation for splitting the admin role

2018-06-11 Thread Petr Bena
Speaking of security, I believe that all sysops and people allowed to edit JS / CSS anywhere on mediawiki sites should be required to use 2FA. On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 4:53 PM, Gergo Tisza wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:28 PM Petr Bena wrote: > >> Is there any historical evidence

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please comment on the draft consultation for splitting the admin role

2018-06-11 Thread Petr Bena
OK in that case I think this should be done. On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:40 PM, Thiemo Kreuz wrote: >> Is there any historical evidence that sysops being able to edit JS / CSS >> caused some serious issues? > > Oh yes, this happens more often than I feel it needs to. I remember a > situation when

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please comment on the draft consultation for splitting the admin role

2018-06-11 Thread Petr Bena
Is there any historical evidence that sysops being able to edit JS / CSS caused some serious issues? Your point that "most of administrators don't understand JS / CSS" is kind of moot. They are usually trustworth and intelligent people. They don't mess up with something they don't understand and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Recommending Firefox to users using legacy browsers?

2017-09-08 Thread Petr Bena
Are we running same firefox? I have same experience like you, but with Chrome. Firefox is best performing and rock solid compared to anything else to me and I run it on all my computers including virtual boxes, with ~100 tabs I achieved months of uptime with no crash. Can't say this about chrome

Re: [Wikitech-l] Global language preference

2017-05-10 Thread Petr Bena
iewing all >> > projects they want to change. AFAIK this was requested in the community >> > wishlist. >> > >> > Martin >> > >> > st 10. 5. 2017 v 9:20 odesílatel Petr Bena <benap...@gmail.com> napsal: >> > >> >> H

[Wikitech-l] Global language preference

2017-05-10 Thread Petr Bena
Hi all, We have central auth, global user pages and stuff like that, do we have some kind of global preferences too? So that one could set interface language to English and have it like that on every single project they work on? I don't really see a need to have different projects with different

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Huggle] Fwd: EventStreams launch and RCStream deprecation

2017-02-25 Thread Petr Bena
Hello, Thanks for the info, this means that we need to switch from RCStream, is there any working example code, preferably written in Python or any other sane terminal friendly language (eg. not html or JS) that is capable of connecting to this stream and obtaining at least identicat information

[Wikitech-l] IRC: wm-bot logs temporary outage

2017-02-19 Thread Petr Bena
Hi folks, Just letting you know that wm-bot logs will not be available for a day or two, reason is required migration to different OS as current OS is no longer accepted on wikimedia labs and all instances that are running it have to be terminated. If you want to track progress see

Re: [Wikitech-l] What happened to RobLa?

2016-11-03 Thread Petr Bena
Hello, I don't like to sound like a bad guy, but I really find it quite inappropriate to discuss this sort of stuff on a public mailing list. This really is a personal matter. If he didn't post any dramatical announcement perhaps he wanted to "leave quietly"? You know, people sometimes do this

Re: [Wikitech-l] irc.wikimedia.org (kraz) reboot

2016-10-21 Thread Petr Bena
------ > Od: Petr Bena <benap...@gmail.com> > Komu: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Datum: 21. 10. 2016 0:44:50 > Předmět: Re: [Wikitech-l] irc.wikimedia.org (kraz) reboot > > "Or you can fix them by using alternative RC providers: > h

Re: [Wikitech-l] irc.wikimedia.org (kraz) reboot

2016-10-20 Thread Petr Bena
Or you can fix them by using alternative RC providers: http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/RCFeed On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Zahn wrote: > Hi, > > this is to let you know that kraz, the server that runs irc.wikimedia.org > had to be rebooted for a kernel upgrade.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dumps.wm.o access will be https only

2016-04-01 Thread Petr Bena
Can you give us some justification for this change? It's not like when downloading dumps you would actually leak some sensitive data... On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 1:03 PM, Ariel Glenn WMF wrote: > We plan to make this change on April 4 (this coming Monday), redirecting > plain

[Wikitech-l] Is there some non-ssl mirror of wikipedia?

2015-12-06 Thread Petr Bena
I noticed that since we enforce SSL on Wikipedia for everyone, Wikipedia is much more restricted in some countries, such as China, where it's entirely blocked (I think only SSL is blocked, but users now have no option to fall back to non-ssl version). Is there some non-ssl mirror for people in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Compression with API

2015-11-30 Thread Petr Bena
Also, mobile phones would probably benefit from this most, if there is some wiki-reader app that uses API for it to work. On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Petr Bena <benap...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I created this ticket: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119878 >

[Wikitech-l] Compression with API

2015-11-30 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, I created this ticket: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119878 The basic idea is that it shouldn't be a big problem to compress output of api.php script using some widely available library, like gzip. That way the size of communication between client and server would be much smaller and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Compression with API

2015-11-30 Thread Petr Bena
Interesting. I was googling for something like that, but for whatever reasons it just wasn't anywhere in the results... On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) <bjor...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Petr Bena <benap...@gmail.com> wrote: &g

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git for idiots

2015-11-11 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, >> >> On 11/10/2015 09:06 AM, Petr Bena wrote: >> > Perhaps it would worth merging and putting to some central location? >> >> Yes, that sounds like a good idea. I typically recommend >> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Wctaiwan/Gerrit_cheatsheet>

[Wikitech-l] Git for idiots

2015-11-10 Thread Petr Bena
Hello, I would like to remind that I made this guide some time ago: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Petrb/Git_for_idiots It always quite sucked and still does, but I tried to slightly rewrite it now, so it should contain more accurate information. I would like to keep it as a super simple

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git for idiots

2015-11-10 Thread Petr Bena
Now I also found this awesome guide: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Aude/Git Perhaps it would worth merging and putting to some central location? On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Petr Bena <benap...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to remind that I made this guid

Re: [Wikitech-l] Parsoid still doesn't love me

2015-11-09 Thread Petr Bena
Do you really want to say that reading from disk is faster than processing the text using CPU? I don't know how complex syntax of mw actually is, but C++ compilers are probably much faster than parsoid, if that's true. And these are very slow. What takes so much CPU time in turning wikitext into

Re: [Wikitech-l] AWS usage

2015-10-08 Thread Petr Bena
or debian, no proprietary software, hard-to-get public IP, long waiting time for stuff that you can't do yourself (request new project), no IPv6 and many others) On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 6:08 AM, John Mark Vandenberg <jay...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:54 AM, Petr Bena <benap.

Re: [Wikitech-l] AWS usage

2015-10-07 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, Why do you even care? Is this question directed to foundation only or community developers as well? "Used by wikimedia" is very broad term. On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Greg Grossmeier wrote: > >> Is AWS (Amazon Web Services) being used by Wikimedia directly; US >>

Re: [Wikitech-l] AWS usage

2015-10-07 Thread Petr Bena
Sorry, I mentioned the question for OP of this thread. On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Greg Grossmeier wrote: > >> Why do you even care? Is this question directed to foundation only or >> community developers as well? "Used by wikimedia" is very broad term. > > I interpreted

[Wikitech-l] Wikitext linting service

2015-10-05 Thread Petr Bena
Hello, I would like to get your input for this potential Google-Code / Outreachy task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114631 Quick summary: Right now there is no simple way to detect syntax errors of a wikicode (text user input as a source code for wiki page). Its existence would make it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Understanding weird behaviour of diffto in API

2015-09-16 Thread Petr Bena
yay, that fixed the problem, thanks :o On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) <bjor...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Petr Bena <benap...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Just to make clear what my problem is, here is example. There is a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Understanding weird behaviour of diffto in API

2015-09-15 Thread Petr Bena
That "compare" feature look promising. Thanks On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) <bjor...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Petr Bena <benap...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I suppose in that case I would set RevID to 520

Re: [Wikitech-l] Understanding weird behaviour of diffto in API

2015-09-15 Thread Petr Bena
se changes. Why is that? I would like to see a diff of these 3 edits from 681167574 which is oldest to 681167909 which in time of me writing this was last revision. On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Petr Bena <benap...@gmail.com> wrote: > That "compare" feature look promising. Th

Re: [Wikitech-l] The "other" developers at the Wikimedia Developer Summit

2015-09-15 Thread Petr Bena
Is there going to be a hangout stream for the presentations so that people who can't attend (trip is just too expensive) can see or participate at them? On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Quim Gil wrote: > You have probably read the announcement of the Wikimedia Developer

[Wikitech-l] Understanding weird behaviour of diffto in API

2015-09-15 Thread Petr Bena
I am trying to understand how this works: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Revisions There is a parameter DiffTo which says: Revision ID to diff each revision to. Use "prev", "next" and "cur" for the previous, next and current revision respectively. I suppose that I can give it revision ID

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator filter by language

2015-07-29 Thread Petr Bena
it might be a little redundant. On a related note, we've been trying to add the Easy tag where appropriate. --stephen [0] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104086 On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Petr Bena benap

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia iOS app moving to GH

2015-07-23 Thread Petr Bena
Force pushes can be disabled if you contact github support On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Gergo Tisza gti...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 4:39 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Good job, you aren't the only one. Huggle team is using it for quite some time

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia iOS app moving to GH

2015-07-22 Thread Petr Bena
Good job, you aren't the only one. Huggle team is using it for quite some time. To be honest I still feel that github is far superior to our gerrit installation and don't really understand why we don't use it for other projects too. The GitHub's pull requests are more compliant with original git

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator filter by language

2015-07-18 Thread Petr Bena
Asking of stackoverflow to resolve a phabricator task is same as asking there to do your homework. How is CSS not common amongst MediaWiki, did something change recently? :P On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 3:39 AM, Gergo Tisza gti...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:04 AM, Petr Bena benap

[Wikitech-l] Phabricator filter by language

2015-07-17 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, What if we added extra projects to phabricator for programming languages (such as language-php, language-c) which could be optionally added to some tickets if help of people who know these languages would be needed. So that it would be possible for example to c++ experts to filter out open

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator filter by language

2015-07-17 Thread Petr Bena
: You can already infer some languages from the project: Pywikibot → Python, Hierator → Java etc. And nearly any other one will have language-php then. But for C++ it might still make sense. Il 17/07/2015 10:04, Petr Bena ha scritto: Hi, What if we added extra projects to phabricator

Re: [Wikitech-l] [IRC] BotBot logs

2015-06-26 Thread Petr Bena
Yes it was, labs still didn't recover from the outage: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103696?workflow=103265 On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 3:19 AM, Stephen Niedzielski sniedziel...@wikimedia.org wrote: This seems to have stopped working a few days ago. I get a 502 Bad Gateway. I was thinking it

Re: [Wikitech-l] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

2015-06-18 Thread Petr Bena
There is no such a thing like properly break. That's like if someone was happily sad. Come on On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Yuri Astrakhan yastrak...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:44 PM,

[Wikitech-l] [IRC] BotBot logs

2015-06-13 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, Krinkle wanted to use BotBot.me log viewer as a frontend for wm-bot's logs. It unfortunatelly uses slightly different database schemas, but I managed to create some views in wm-bot's db that actually produces similar columns and behold! It works: http://botbot.wmflabs.org/freenode/15/ Well,

Re: [Wikitech-l] [IRC] BotBot logs

2015-06-13 Thread Petr Bena
I fixed slugs now, so every channel has perma links in format of http://botbot.wmflabs.org/freenode/CHANNEL for example http://botbot.wmflabs.org/freenode/wikimedia-labs/ On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Krinkle wanted to use BotBot.me log viewer

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia-Europe PMC hackathon

2015-06-09 Thread Petr Bena
\O/ MORE HACKATHONS per year! yay On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Dan Bolser dan.bol...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry if this is the wrong list, please feel free to distribute as appropriate... Details (developing) here:

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Mediawiki-api-announce] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

2015-06-04 Thread Petr Bena
Out of curiosity, this may also break all versions of huggle that are older than 3.15, which was released sometime around November 2014. I strongly recommend you to upgrade if you are using such an ancient version. I don't know what is going to happen, but it may break. Unless someone patches the

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Mediawiki-api-announce] API BREAKING CHANGE: Default continuation mode for action=query will change at the end of this month

2015-06-04 Thread Petr Bena
* 3.1.5 not 3.15, sorry for confusion :P On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Out of curiosity, this may also break all versions of huggle that are older than 3.15, which was released sometime around November 2014. I strongly recommend you to upgrade if you

[Wikitech-l] [IRC] wm-bot's IRC logs web viewer quick outage

2015-05-27 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, I will be migrating wm-bot's database server to new box running postgres today. It shouldn't harm any log collection in channels where logging is enabled, but it will make it impossible to use the SQL based viewer at http://tools.wmflabs.org/wm-bot/logs for a while (I hope just few hours).

[Wikitech-l] Hackathon anti-vandalism mini-conference

2015-03-31 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, I was looking at pages on wiki and couldn't find where to submit proposals for presentations or cons that would take place on Lyon's hackathon, so I will post it here. I don't know how many people who do or have done some antivandalism (see [[w:WP:VAND|Vandalism]] for info) work in any way

Re: [Wikitech-l] Maps

2015-03-18 Thread Petr Bena
One foundation to rule them all? :P On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, just a quick note: as part of general search and discovery work, me and Yuri are resurrecting the project to have OpenStreetMap in Wikimedia starting in April. Because the initial

Re: [Wikitech-l] Starting conversion of LiquidThreads to Flow at mediawiki.org

2015-03-17 Thread Petr Bena
Ok, here I copy my message Petrb (talkcontribsblock) Hi, I think you all missed some old good rants. So here is one :) why the hell is the URL Topic:Sdoatsbslsafx6lw and not something easy to read and remember? On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote:

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

2015-03-06 Thread Petr Bena
, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: I randomly opened RecentChanges page on enwiki and this is what I saw: http://img.ctrlv.in/img/15/03/06/54f9d5645eb03.png from 50 edits, at least 8 were automated, just as much interesting as any regular bot edit. It usually is even worse, anyway as you can

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

2015-03-06 Thread Petr Bena
I randomly opened RecentChanges page on enwiki and this is what I saw: http://img.ctrlv.in/img/15/03/06/54f9d5645eb03.png from 50 edits, at least 8 were automated, just as much interesting as any regular bot edit. It usually is even worse, anyway as you can see about 20% of all edits you can see

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech] Wikimedia Hackathon Lyon: registrations opened

2015-03-06 Thread Petr Bena
I have a question regarding scholarship: is there a way to indicate that I would like to apply for a full scholarship, but in case the application wouldn't pass, I am also interested in partial scholarship? Partial scholarship is still better than none, in which case I might not be able to attend

Re: [Wikitech-l] Cross wiki templates

2015-03-04 Thread Petr Bena
Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de a écrit : On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Sorry, I know I asked about this thing recently, but I can't remember what the outcome was. I know it's currently not possible to create cross wiki templates

[Wikitech-l] Cross wiki templates

2015-03-04 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, Sorry, I know I asked about this thing recently, but I can't remember what the outcome was. I know it's currently not possible to create cross wiki templates, but is there any plan to implement this feature? For example pages like http://enwp.org/Linux contains Latest version and probably

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

2015-02-23 Thread Petr Bena
I don't believe that users would actually use it if this permission was so hard to obtain as bot flag is (on english wiki). If there was such a huge complex bureaucratic process for this, most of users would just keep doing semi-automated edits as regular edits. The summary of differences between

Re: [Wikitech-l] [OT] Global user pages deployed to all wikis

2015-02-22 Thread Petr Bena
I don't really see what is a problem here. On meta you can request deletion of all userpages in 2 minutes, I myself got my userpages deleted within 2 days and I didn't have to care at all. It was super simple and it worked. I've seen a lot of problematic deployments of things that didn't work,

[Wikitech-l] Transfering domain cswp.cz to WMF

2015-02-22 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, Long time ago I purchased domain cswp.cz in order to use it in same way as enwp.org for czech wikipedia (cswp.org was taken by something). I think that it would be probably better if it was owned and maintained by WMF rather than me, but I don't really know where to ask, neither if ops are

Re: [Wikitech-l] Global user pages deployed to all wikis

2015-02-19 Thread Petr Bena
Now maybe create some user friendly documentation less technical than what is on extension-desc which tell users how to use this? On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:30 AM, florian.schmidt.wel...@t-online.de florian.schmidt.wel...@t-online.de wrote: Yeah, thanks for your work on this Kunal! enwiki:

Re: [Wikitech-l] If you hear about 'hackathon buddies'...

2015-02-19 Thread Petr Bena
Is there any limit for a number of buddies? I suppose that one WMF employee can have more than 1 non-WMF buddy, otherwise the limit of non-WMF people at hackathon would equal number of employees :P P.S. I no have a buddy :'( no one lieks me On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Quim Gil

Re: [Wikitech-l] Html.php line 269

2015-02-18 Thread Petr Bena
by default?) On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 10:31 PM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone explain the point of these lines to me? https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/blob/master/includes/Html.php#L269 Someone thought

Re: [Wikitech-l] Html.php line 269

2015-02-18 Thread Petr Bena
/r/191473/ for consistency with closeElement. Thanks for reporting. Il 18/02/2015 22:38, Petr Bena ha scritto: I was digging and I found that commit you sent - eefe1b13a but you can see that this commit modified 2 functions: both open and closeElement, however for some reason the code

Re: [Wikitech-l] Html.php line 269

2015-02-18 Thread Petr Bena
fix the broken html before it gets printed out On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's the other way, omiting the html tags is probably correct, as long as both opening and ending tags are omitted :P so I think the closeElement function needs a fix

Re: [Wikitech-l] Html.php line 269

2015-02-18 Thread Petr Bena
Most of browsers would probably handle it OK, but validators not. On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Yep That makes me feel like this is bug which everyone overlooked because it's true by default. If you set it to false mediawiki would likely write out

Re: [Wikitech-l] Html.php line 269

2015-02-18 Thread Petr Bena
Yep That makes me feel like this is bug which everyone overlooked because it's true by default. If you set it to false mediawiki would likely write out syntactically wrong code. On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 10:43 PM, Gergo Tisza gti...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Petr Bena

Re: [Wikitech-l] IRC: wm-bot now speak with GitHub fluently

2015-02-17 Thread Petr Bena
-bot.wmflabs.org/github/index.php On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: I forgot few things: The bot used to be available to everyone, but freenode staff requested me to limit it only for wikimedia people, so that there aren't people who abuse it. For that reason in order

Re: [Wikitech-l] IRC: wm-bot now speak with GitHub fluently

2015-02-17 Thread Petr Bena
in #wm-bot and someone will help you out. Also, these @github+ / @github- commands need to be issued in YOUR channel, not #wm-bot Thanks :) On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, I was too tired of semi-working unstable random IRC services that provides

Re: [Wikitech-l] IRC: wm-bot now speak with GitHub fluently

2015-02-17 Thread Petr Bena
As half of wikimedia labs just died, rendering this feature unusable, I am taking back teh Pretty stable feature :/ On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: It wouldn't be me if I didn't forget how the whole thing works 5 minutes after I finish it. So yes, I forgot

[Wikitech-l] IRC: wm-bot now speak with GitHub fluently

2015-02-17 Thread Petr Bena
/87ad2018cae6...f5b2131c10ad (10:41:00) wm-bot GitHub [benapetr/test-wm] commit by benapetr (Petr Bena) https://github.com/benapetr/test-wm/commit/f5b2131c10ad3bb1fe902db911ed01421ce6effe test Formatting kind of suck, but you can fix it! Handler is written in PHP: https://github.com/benapetr

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

2015-02-15 Thread Petr Bena
I think it's pretty clear what I am proposing here :P there is a real problem and this is a real solution. Regarding vandals would have fun with that I think you are over estimating them, most of them are barely able to use regular web based interface for anything more clever than removing half of

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

2015-02-13 Thread Petr Bena
What would be the letter for it then? s? t? a? On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: I think bot edits are most closely aligned with fully automated editing. Perhaps semi-automated edit would work. Pine On Feb 12, 2015 10:34 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org

[Wikitech-l] New recent changes library for .Net

2015-02-13 Thread Petr Bena
Hi Some of you who use JS and Python were probably excited about deployment of new RCStream (1) and some of you who use .Net were probably disapointed how complex it is to get it, JSON and websockets.IO running on .Net in order to get it working. Here I made a super simple C# library that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Needs Volunteer priority field value in Phabricator

2015-02-13 Thread Petr Bena
I like that volunteer flag, please keep it. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: Apparently the idea to rename the Priority field value from Lowest in Bugzilla to Needs Volunteer in Phabricator created more confusion than expected. I am sorry for that -

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

2015-02-12 Thread Petr Bena
this have to do with English Wikipedia ? It is useful everywhere.. Why limit the scope ? Thanks, GerardM On 11 February 2015 at 10:33, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, the question is however, if this passed consensus on english wikipedia and I made a patch for mediawiki, assuming code

Re: [Wikitech-l] Cross-wiki template

2015-02-12 Thread Petr Bena
/Manual:$wgEnableScaryTranscluding. See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52329 for a Wikimedia implementation instead. Il 12/02/2015 13:32, Petr Bena ha scritto: Hi, Is it possible to use template from english wikipedia on a different wiki (meta in this case)? Something like {{w:Template

Re: [Wikitech-l] Cross-wiki template

2015-02-12 Thread Petr Bena
OK Thanks On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to use template from english wikipedia on a different wiki (meta in this case)? Something like {{w:Template}}. Not possible

[Wikitech-l] Cross-wiki template

2015-02-12 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, Is it possible to use template from english wikipedia on a different wiki (meta in this case)? Something like {{w:Template}}. I couldn't find this anywhere. I don't want to export it, I want to be able to change it on 1 wiki so that change gets everywhere else as well.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Who moved my cheese?

2015-02-12 Thread Petr Bena
Regarding everyone loves JSON these days: I truly, deeply, hate it. On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hey folks, I'd to modestly propose that we talk about managing/announcing breaking changes to core MediaWiki architecture. I want to have this

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why there is no authentication mechanism for desktop applications

2015-02-11 Thread Petr Bena
...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello, Le mercredi 11 février 2015, 16:59:45 Petr Bena a écrit : We have OAuth for browser based programs. But nothing for desktop applications that are being used by users. (Like AWB etc). It sounds pretty simple to me, so why we don't have anything like

Re: [Wikitech-l] Why there is no authentication mechanism for desktop applications

2015-02-11 Thread Petr Bena
I know this and that is why I started this thread :) On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Guillaume Paumier gpaum...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello, Le mercredi 11 février 2015, 16:59:45 Petr Bena a écrit : We have OAuth for browser based programs. But nothing for desktop applications

[Wikitech-l] Why there is no authentication mechanism for desktop applications

2015-02-11 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, We have OAuth for browser based programs. But nothing for desktop applications that are being used by users. (Like AWB etc). These applications now have to ask for password, which is kind of safe given that they are open source and running on computer of the user, so at some point giving

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

2015-02-11 Thread Petr Bena
Feb 2015 17:57, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: As I said, I belive that any registered user should be able to use, with no need for permissions as I see no way to abuse it. If anyone can use it, wouldn't the smarter vandals just use it to avoid the RC patrollers? How does a user

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

2015-02-11 Thread Petr Bena
in message news:caf_zkbp-abgzgcy4lqqvbtxur-2tjo8opmbwxtrosfvihuc...@mail.gmail.com... On 11 Feb 2015 17:57, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: As I said, I belive that any registered user should be able to use, with no need for permissions as I see no way to abuse it. If anyone can use

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

2015-02-11 Thread Petr Bena
. Then you could advertise it on enwiki and other major wikis. On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 4:57 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: As I said, I belive that any registered user should be able to use, with no need for permissions as I see no way to abuse it. Well, there's marking edits as tool

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

2015-02-11 Thread Petr Bena
be useful for other wikis as well. We already have bot flag and most of smaller wikis have no bots. On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Definitely worth discussing. For ENWP, I suggest bringing this up on VP:T. Thanks, Pine On Feb 11, 2015 12:45 AM, Petr Bena benap

Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

2015-02-11 Thread Petr Bena
: Definitely worth discussing. For ENWP, I suggest bringing this up on VP:T. Thanks, Pine On Feb 11, 2015 12:45 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I think I proposed this once but I forgot the outcome. I would like to implement a new feature called tool edit it would be pretty much

[Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

2015-02-11 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, I think I proposed this once but I forgot the outcome. I would like to implement a new feature called tool edit it would be pretty much the same as bot edit but with following differences: -- Every registered user would be able to flag edit as tool edit (bot needs special user group) -- The

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-08 Thread Petr Bena
, I can easily do that on linux and compile with mingw compiler that can build .exe files on linux. But in case of apple you can only dream of that. On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Le 08/02/2015 15:26, Petr Bena a écrit : What can I say, I always had

Re: [Wikitech-l] GPL upgrading to version 3

2015-02-08 Thread Petr Bena
permissions from other developers who contributed the code in order to change the license. On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: TBH as open source developer I don't feel like publishing kernel sources makes it any easier for me to create applications for their platform

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