Re: [Wikitech-l] [ANN] MediaWiki Short URL Builder configuration tool

2012-02-27 Thread John Du Hart
On Feb 27, 2012 9:57 PM, wrote: > > Actually if you put it in the installer you are making a commitment to > handhold them through thick and thin, though better and worse, till the > death of their wiki do we part. I do (NOT!). > What. > > "C" == Chad writes: > >> Plus, I might know how to

Re: [Wikitech-l] [ANN] MediaWiki Short URL Builder configuration tool

2012-02-27 Thread jidanni
Actually if you put it in the installer you are making a commitment to handhold them through thick and thin, though better and worse, till the death of their wiki do we part. I do (NOT!). > "C" == Chad writes: >> Plus, I might know how to maintain them now, but five years later will I >> sti

Re: [Wikitech-l] [ANN] MediaWiki Short URL Builder configuration tool

2012-02-27 Thread Chad
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:15 PM, wrote: > If short URLs were so good, then one wouldn't need an 'after market' > treatment to add them. I'll wait. > It's because it's pretty hard to detect this stuff "out of the box." We can try, but it's not always easy. I'd love to see this in the installer ev

Re: [Wikitech-l] [ANN] MediaWiki Short URL Builder configuration tool

2012-02-27 Thread jidanni
If short URLs were so good, then one wouldn't need an 'after market' treatment to add them. I'll wait. Plus, I might know how to maintain them now, but five years later will I still know? I'm not getting any younger. Plus, what about all that spam in my mailbox about increasing the length of my U

Re: [Wikitech-l] [ANN] MediaWiki Short URL Builder configuration tool

2012-02-26 Thread Daniel Friesen
I've added Lighttpd support to the shorturl tool now. Complete with a port of the IE6 XSS fix we have in images/.htaccess. -- ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name] On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 03:48:10 -0800, Daniel Friesen wrote: In my spare time at Redwerks I've

Re: [Wikitech-l] [ANN] MediaWiki Short URL Builder configuration tool

2012-02-25 Thread Chad
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Daniel Friesen wrote: > So it will probably have to be some distance in the future before it's > robust enough for us to include into the installer. > That is probably natural anyways. Since when you think about it, at this > point we don't even have good manual pa

Re: [Wikitech-l] [ANN] MediaWiki Short URL Builder configuration tool

2012-02-25 Thread Daniel Friesen
You might be able to adapt the tests I use in the tool and the rules for generating the config later on. Though as-is the actual code won't be as much help. It's in Ruby rather than PHP. And the code has to be intermixed with the config output because of how variable short url config can be.

Re: [Wikitech-l] [ANN] MediaWiki Short URL Builder configuration tool

2012-02-25 Thread Gregory Varnum
I'm actually glad you brought that up - it's a general topic that's been bouncing around in my mind lately. I can appreciate the marketing concern. :) I think we'll need to be flexible in allowing the look and logo to remain intact. As I've been reviewing extension pages, I've noticed a heal

Re: [Wikitech-l] [ANN] MediaWiki Short URL Builder configuration tool

2012-02-25 Thread Daniel Friesen
I can forward that. Technically since I logged work hours to write that and the MW Skinning tutorial I don't own the copyright for them, so I have to get an ok for anything like that. Keep in mind that the premise under which I was allowed to write them under work hours was that putting thing

Re: [Wikitech-l] [ANN] MediaWiki Short URL Builder configuration tool

2012-02-25 Thread Chad
Integrating short url config to the installer has been on my todo list for a long time. Dan: would you be interested in putting this into the installer sometime in the future? -Chad On Feb 25, 2012 3:06 PM, "Mr. Gregory Varnum" wrote: > I think the tool is great! > > Would it be possible to hou

Re: [Wikitech-l] [ANN] MediaWiki Short URL Builder configuration tool

2012-02-25 Thread Mr. Gregory Varnum
I think the tool is great! Would it be possible to house on labs or toolserver? My only hesitation in linking to it is then we're dependent on Redwerks generosity in hosting. I think we should leave due credit to them and such in place. -Greg aka varnent Sent from my iPhone. Apo

Re: [Wikitech-l] [ANN] MediaWiki Short URL Builder configuration tool

2012-02-25 Thread Daniel Friesen
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 01:25:32 -0800, Antoine Musso wrote: Daniel Friesen wrote: Balanced? That section lists a single bad example of an /advantage/ for long urls. Another advantage of long URLs, is for such corner case when the sysop team does not know about URL rewriting and has more imp

Re: [Wikitech-l] [ANN] MediaWiki Short URL Builder configuration tool

2012-02-25 Thread Antoine Musso
Daniel Friesen wrote: Balanced? That section lists a single bad example of an /advantage/ for long urls. Another advantage of long URLs, is for such corner case when the sysop team does not know about URL rewriting and has more important things to do than figuring it out. I have seen such ca

Re: [Wikitech-l] [ANN] MediaWiki Short URL Builder configuration tool

2012-02-24 Thread Daniel Friesen
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:48:15 -0800, wrote: http://shorturls.redwerks.org/ should link to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL#Advantages_.26_disadvantages . for a balanced view. I'll stick with my long URLs. Balanced? That section lists a single bad example of an /advantage/ for

Re: [Wikitech-l] [ANN] MediaWiki Short URL Builder configuration tool

2012-02-24 Thread John Du Hart
Thanks jidanni, I'm glad that we can always count on you for fair and balanced opinion. On Feb 24, 2012 8:48 PM, wrote: > http://shorturls.redwerks.org/ should link to > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL#Advantages_.26_disadvantages. > for a balanced view. I'll stick with my long URL

Re: [Wikitech-l] [ANN] MediaWiki Short URL Builder configuration tool

2012-02-24 Thread jidanni
http://shorturls.redwerks.org/ should link to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL#Advantages_.26_disadvantages . for a balanced view. I'll stick with my long URLs. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikime

[Wikitech-l] [ANN] MediaWiki Short URL Builder configuration tool

2012-02-23 Thread Daniel Friesen
In my spare time at Redwerks I've been working on a Short URL configuration tool: http://shorturls.redwerks.org/ Our Short URL manual pages have been VERY bad for quite awhile. Every last one of them has bad practice on them and I only managed to fix one of them. Considering how we have s