Re: [Wikitech-l] Decorification of features

2011-09-27 Thread Chad
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Daniel Friesen wrote: > Hmmm... we could use a new rc request variable. > Rather than this &oldrc= &newrc= &cleanrc= stuff we should switch to > something like just &rctype={classic,enhanced,clean}. > URL parameters are kind of ugly for this. -Chad _

Re: [Wikitech-l] Decorification of features

2011-09-27 Thread Krinkle
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Happy Melon wrote: > On 27 September 2011 22:38, Daniel Friesen >wrote: > > > On 11-09-27 02:18 PM, Olivier Beaton wrote: > > >>> * File path > > >> Special:Filepath is an important special page for linking. If you have > > >> uploads then Special:Filepath is the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Decorification of features

2011-09-27 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 11-09-27 05:58 PM, Siebrand Mazeland wrote: >> On 11-09-27 02:18 PM, Olivier Beaton wrote: >>> Woah woah woah, I definitely didn't (and would never) say you would'nt >>> have these things in your wiki, or that mediawiki shouldn't ship with >>> them. >>> >>> Currently there are two Recent changes

Re: [Wikitech-l] Decorification of features

2011-09-27 Thread Siebrand Mazeland
> On 11-09-27 02:18 PM, Olivier Beaton wrote: >> Woah woah woah, I definitely didn't (and would never) say you would'nt >> have these things in your wiki, or that mediawiki shouldn't ship with >> them. >> >> Currently there are two Recent changes in core, and a few extensions >> that have alternati

Re: [Wikitech-l] Decorification of features

2011-09-27 Thread Happy Melon
On 27 September 2011 22:38, Daniel Friesen wrote: > On 11-09-27 02:18 PM, Olivier Beaton wrote: > >>> * File path > >> Special:Filepath is an important special page for linking. If you have > >> uploads then Special:Filepath is the only way for bots and other 3rd > >> party tools to reliably get a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Decorification of features

2011-09-27 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 11-09-27 02:18 PM, Olivier Beaton wrote: > Woah woah woah, I definitely didn't (and would never) say you would'nt > have these things in your wiki, or that mediawiki shouldn't ship with > them. > > Currently there are two Recent changes in core, and a few extensions > that have alternatives as w

Re: [Wikitech-l] Decorification of features

2011-09-27 Thread Olivier Beaton
Woah woah woah, I definitely didn't (and would never) say you would'nt have these things in your wiki, or that mediawiki shouldn't ship with them. Currently there are two Recent changes in core, and a few extensions that have alternatives as well. I don't see why some are extensions and some are c

Re: [Wikitech-l] Decorification of features

2011-09-27 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 11-09-27 06:37 AM, Olivier Beaton wrote: > * Recent changes This is as ridiculous as removing diffs completely. Revisions, the ability to diff between them, and a list of changes are three key core features. If you're going to get rid of any of them you might as well just stop using MediaWiki.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Decorification of features

2011-09-27 Thread Platonides
Olivier Beaton wrote: > Thing's I'd like to see in extensions and shipped with the default > install (maybe not each item in it's own, a lot of these could be > grouped) I think you're being too bold here (eg. Special:Statistics but keeping the statistics core). Although I agree that most of thos

Re: [Wikitech-l] Decorification of features

2011-09-27 Thread Olivier Beaton
Thing's I'd like to see in extensions and shipped with the default install (maybe not each item in it's own, a lot of these could be grouped) Maintenance reports * Broken redirects * Dead-end pages * Double redirects * Long pages * Oldest pages * Orphaned pages * Pages with the fewest revisions *

Re: [Wikitech-l] Decorification of features

2011-09-26 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 11-09-26 03:09 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Happy Melon > wrote: > >>> LanguageConverter would be a bitch to move out only because there are >> precious few people who could tell us how it's *supposed* to work, let >> alone >> whether it still works after we change

Re: [Wikitech-l] Decorification of features

2011-09-26 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Happy Melon wrote: > > LanguageConverter would be a bitch to move out only because there are > precious few people who could tell us how it's *supposed* to work, let > alone > whether it still works after we change anything in it. But LC doesn't > AFAIK > form any

Re: [Wikitech-l] Decorification of features

2011-09-26 Thread Happy Melon
On 26 September 2011 21:50, Brion Vibber wrote: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Olivier Beaton >wrote: > > Things like LanguageConverter have been in MediaWiki for several years and > date to younger times for the extension interface. Math wasn't broken out > into an extension until 1.18 beca

Re: [Wikitech-l] Decorification of features

2011-09-26 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Olivier Beaton wrote: > I've started a Request for comment on MW for the decorification of MW > features into extensions. I am not talking about removing features that we > distribute to our users. Simply how we include them in the mediawiki > software (core vs ext

[Wikitech-l] Decorification of features

2011-09-26 Thread Olivier Beaton
I've started a Request for comment on MW for the decorification of MW features into extensions. I am not talking about removing features that we distribute to our users. Simply how we include them in the mediawiki software (core vs extensions) especially now that our new installer allows us to pack