Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 2.0 (was: No more Architecture Committee?)

2015-01-20 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, FYI: we had this discussion for SMW some time ago. We where at version 1.9, following a naming pattern very similar to the MediaWiki one. The question there was if the next release containing a break should be either 1.10 (no change), 2.0 (following semver) or 10.0 (dropping the 1.). People

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 2.0 (was: No more Architecture Committee?)

2015-01-20 Thread James HK
Hi, - ​Get rid of wikitext on the server-side. - HTML storage only. Remove MWParser from the codebase. All extensions that hook into wikitext (so, almost all of them?) will need to be re-written. You gotta to be kidding. It seems we are a bit out of sync here with the

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 2.0 (was: No more Architecture Committee?)

2015-01-20 Thread James Forrester
On 20 January 2015 at 12:04, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote: ​​ - ​Get rid of wikitext on the server-side. - HTML storage only. Remove MWParser from the codebase. All extensions that hook into wikitext (so, almost all of them?) will need to be

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 2.0 (was: No more Architecture Committee?)

2015-01-20 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 2015-01-20 12:21 PM, James HK wrote: Hi, - ​Get rid of wikitext on the server-side. - HTML storage only. Remove MWParser from the codebase. All extensions that hook into wikitext (so, almost all of them?) will need to be re-written. You gotta to be kidding. It seems

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 2.0 (was: No more Architecture Committee?)

2015-01-20 Thread Brian Wolff
On Jan 20, 2015 4:22 PM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 20 January 2015 at 12:04, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote: ​​ - ​Get rid of wikitext on the server-side. - HTML storage only. Remove MWParser from the codebase. All extensions that

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 2.0 (was: No more Architecture Committee?)

2015-01-20 Thread James HK
Hi, On 1/21/15, Daniel Friesen dan...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: On 2015-01-20 12:21 PM, James HK wrote: Hi, - ​Get rid of wikitext on the server-side. - HTML storage only. Remove MWParser from the codebase. All extensions that hook into wikitext (so, almost all of them?)

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 2.0 (was: No more Architecture Committee?)

2015-01-20 Thread Brian Wolff
On Jan 20, 2015 5:53 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 20, 2015 4:22 PM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 20 January 2015 at 12:04, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote: ​​ - ​Get rid of wikitext on the server-side. - HTML storage

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 2.0 (was: No more Architecture Committee?)

2015-01-20 Thread Helder .
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: My second reason for being skeptical is im mostly unclear on what the benefits are over wikitext storage (this is the first time ive heard of the ve w/o parsoid thing. Are there other benefits? Simplifying parser cache by

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 2.0 (was: No more Architecture Committee?)

2015-01-17 Thread Brian Wolff
On Jan 16, 2015 1:05 PM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: [Moving threads for on-topic-ness.] On 16 January 2015 at 07:01, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone actually have anything they want that is difficult to do currently and requires a mass compat break?

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 2.0 (was: No more Architecture Committee?)

2015-01-16 Thread James Forrester
[Moving threads for on-topic-ness.] On 16 January 2015 at 07:01, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone actually have anything they want that is difficult to do currently and requires a mass compat break? ​Sure. ​Three quick examples of things on the horizon (I'm not particularly

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 2.0 (was: No more Architecture Committee?)

2015-01-16 Thread Dmitriy Sintsov
Why wikitext is so much disliked? It's more compact to type than HTML. It's a templating language. HTML is not. Then something like Handlebars (which is weaker than wikitext) should be used. Or, something like web components and custom tags. But why removing nice thing (wikitext) which saves a lot