Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Should we drop the rendering preferences for math?

On 11/28/2011 05:46 PM, wikitech-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: > Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:16:55 -0800 > From: Brion Vibber > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:05 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > >> > Brion Vibber wrote: >> > > [snip my notes about removing the non-PNG non-source options, wanting > high

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Should we drop the rendering preferences for math?

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:05 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > Brion Vibber wrote: > [snip my notes about removing the non-PNG non-source options, wanting higher-resolution renderings] > Did you have a chance to evaluate MathJax? I > know > it's come up in past math discussions an

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Should we drop the rendering preferences for math?

Brion Vibber wrote: > I've gone ahead and implemented the initial part for 1.19 (disabled the > math rendering options other than PNG and source), and opened another bug > entry with some details on how to add the baseline shifting that should > make PNGs nicer inline: > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Should we drop the rendering preferences for math?

Hey folks, remember this discussion from a few months ago? I've gone ahead and implemented the initial part for 1.19 (disabled the math rendering options other than PNG and source), and opened another bug entry with some details on how to add the baseline shifting that should make PNGs nicer inlin

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Should we drop the rendering preferences for math?

Ok, I've set up an RfC page on MediaWiki.org which'll be easier to comment on for folks not on the lists: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Reduce_math_rendering_preferences and added some links, comments & requests for further feedback at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_t

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Should we drop the rendering preferences for math?

+1 on that -- using the wiki's the right thing! The list is great for devs but it's a high bar to figure out for feedback. My position for now is to recommend reducing the existing options to just PNG and text, and after that look more solidly at auto-enabling mathjax etc for the next major improv

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Should we drop the rendering preferences for math?

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Michael Hardy wrote: > The two discussions should not be separate.  The issues > in this thread have been talked about frequently since > February 2003 on that wikiproject talk page.  Various > views exist, but there is general agreement about the > less-than-perfe

[Wikitech-l] RFC: Should we drop the rendering preferences for math?

Helder started a discussion at [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mathematics#RFC: _Should_MW_developers_drop_the_rendering_preferences_for_math.3F]]. I followed his link to this present discussion, and there I followed the instructions on how to post to this list, and I got an email telling me I am no

[Wikitech-l] RFC: Should we drop the rendering preferences for math?

After getting an email that said: > You are now authorized to post to the > gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical newsgroup. I made five separate attempts over a number of hours to post. All unsuccessful. I had on-topic comments, and I am unwilling to type them yet another time before f

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Should we drop the rendering preferences for math?

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > Sounds like someone should propose MathJax as a gadget: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Gadget/proposals That solves some of the problems, but making it a gadget isn't technically very different from just putting it in user javascrip

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Should we drop the rendering preferences for math?

Sounds like someone should propose MathJax as a gadget: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Gadget/proposals Ryan Kaldari On 7/19/11 8:58 AM, Carl (CBM) wrote: > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: >> It's conceivable that a few folks really honestly prefer to see the latex >

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Should we drop the rendering preferences for math?

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:58, Carl (CBM) wrote: > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > > It's conceivable that a few folks really honestly prefer to see the latex > > source in their graphical browsers (should at least do a quick stat check > to > > see if anybody uses it on p

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Should we drop the rendering preferences for math?

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > It's conceivable that a few folks really honestly prefer to see the latex > source in their graphical browsers (should at least do a quick stat check to > see if anybody uses it on purpose), but I wouldn't mind removing that > either. Some pe

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Should we drop the rendering preferences for math?

Why not consider building in SVG rendering natively while we are at it, instead of relying on extensions. Many browsers have joined the SVG bandwagon anyway, and it would cut down on the "pixelated look" which we see when zooming in on tablets, as well as on PCs with very large displays. I'm sure

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Should we drop the rendering preferences for math?

2011/7/19 Brion Vibber : > I'd actually propose dropping the rendering options entirely... I'm mostly OK with it, but see below. > * "MathML" mode is even *MORE* limited than "HTML if simple", making it > entirely useless. So that's why it doesn't work. > It's conceivable that a few folks reall

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Should we drop the rendering preferences for math?

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > Bug 24207 requests switching the math rendering preference default from its > current setting (which usually produces a nice PNG and occasionally produces > some kinda ugly HTML) to the "always render PNG" setting. This would also close bugs:

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Should we drop the rendering preferences for math?

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > I'd actually propose dropping the rendering options entirely... > +10 > It's conceivable that a few folks really honestly prefer to see the latex > source in their graphical browsers (should at least do a quick stat check to > see if anybody

[Wikitech-l] RFC: Should we drop the rendering preferences for math?

Bug 24207 requests switching the math rendering preference default from its current setting (which usually produces a nice PNG and occasionally produces some kinda ugly HTML) to the "always render PNG" setting. I'd actually propose dropping the rendering options entirely... * "HTML if simple" and