[Wikitech-l] Re: Outreachy Round 25–call for projects and mentors now open!

2022-09-08 Thread Slavina Stefanova
Novem Linguae and Roy – thank you both for your insights. Yes, app-level logging/monitoring could be much better, for sure. And Toolforge is far from intuitive for the average user. We are currently working on new features that will ultimately make Toolforge easier to use, similar to other PaaS of

[Wikitech-l] Re: Outreachy Round 25–call for projects and mentors now open!

2022-09-07 Thread Roy Smith
On Sep 7, 2022, at 4:50 PM, novemling...@gmail.com wrote: > > - FTP programs that aren't WinSCP with "environment -> SFTP -> server -> sudo > -u tools.novem-bot /usr/lib/sftp-server" configured appear to the user to > work, but create some hard-to-track-down bugs because files have the wrong >

[Wikitech-l] Re: Outreachy Round 25–call for projects and mentors now open!

2022-09-07 Thread novemling...@gmail.com
Hi Slavina, I hope you don't mind me jumping in, but here are a couple things I did not find intuitive when I started using Toolforge. I've been using PHP/cPanel style web hosts since around year 2000 so I was expecting an experience similar to that, but I encountered a couple of "gotchyas" t

[Wikitech-l] Re: Outreachy Round 25–call for projects and mentors now open!

2022-09-07 Thread Roy Smith
The biggest issues I see are the lack of any good logging, monitoring and alerting tools. Things like icinga, logstash, grafina. The kind of things that are standard for supporting any production system. I've raised this before, so I won't belabor the point here. And https://phabricator.wiki

[Wikitech-l] Re: Outreachy Round 25–call for projects and mentors now open!

2022-09-07 Thread Slavina Stefanova
> > I assume the plan is to do this in Toolforge? There's a few things about > Toolforge that I bristle at, but it does give a lot of value in the stuff > you get for free. I don't see any viable alternative for a small project > like this. Toolforge is an option; Cloud VPS is also possible if

[Wikitech-l] Re: Outreachy Round 25–call for projects and mentors now open!

2022-09-07 Thread Roy Smith
Just from my personal experience, I see django as a good "batteries included" solution that lets you get something up and running quickly because it gives you all the pieces in one package. But I've found that I tend to actually use very little of it. I tend not to use the django database/mode

[Wikitech-l] Re: Outreachy Round 25–call for projects and mentors now open!

2022-09-07 Thread Slavina Stefanova
Hi Roy, Thank you for your interest! Your background sounds great. I like Django too, but think it may be overkill for this particular project. Nothing is set in stone, though, and I appreciate suggestions on the tech stack we end up going with. A few other people have expressed interest too, so I

[Wikitech-l] Re: Outreachy Round 25–call for projects and mentors now open!

2022-09-06 Thread Roy Smith
Hi. I might be interested. I'm expert in Python, and have some experience with Flask. I'm the author of spi-tools , which was done in Django, but I've come around to thinking that Flask probably would have been a better choice. I have minimal front-end

[Wikitech-l] Re: Outreachy Round 25–call for projects and mentors now open!

2022-09-06 Thread Slavina Stefanova
Hello all, I am looking for someone to join me as a co-mentor for the Outreachy 2022 December cohort. I’m a former Outreachy intern and currently working as a software engineer with the Technical Engagement team at WMF. The project is detailed in this Phabricator task[0]. It will be a web app sim

[Wikitech-l] Re: Outreachy Round 25–call for projects and mentors now open!

2022-08-31 Thread Srishti Sethi
Hello all, Just a quick follow-up on this email. As of now, we have three projects almost finalized and ready to participate in Outreachy. There are still two more projects we can accommodate in this round; if there is an interest, drop a comment on the Phabricator task. You can also dive into the