Re: [Wikitech-l] Request for Comments: New Search

2013-07-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
It seems like there are also a bunch of hacky search-alike features built into the mediawiki database. For example, "all pages linking to this page", "my contributions", etc. From a code cleanup standpoint, it would also be worthwhile if these were all unified and brought together under a single

Re: [Wikitech-l] Request for Comments: New Search

2013-07-22 Thread Nikolas Everett
Scott, I was going to respond to this a while ago but couldn't really do it justice. I'm still pretty sure my explanation won't be great, which is an indication of just how good Google is. For strait search there is nothing we can do that Google can't. It might cost them more time and money to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Request for Comments: New Search

2013-07-22 Thread Robert Elwell
Hi Nik, Just a quick comment on choosing ElasticSearch over Solr: We use Solr at Wikia, and we have a lot we can offer the Foundation in terms of knowledge sharing. It might be a good idea to consider future opportunities to collaborate while vetting ElasticSearch. Even if ElasticSearch is you

Re: [Wikitech-l] Request for Comments: New Search

2013-07-19 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I wonder if there are queries or use cases we can support that *aren't* already better handled by google. Granted, users of private wikis can't simply use the 'site:' trick to reuse Google search results -- but users of private wikis also probably don't need superduper scalability. Trying to brai

Re: [Wikitech-l] Request for Comments: New Search

2013-07-19 Thread Nikolas Everett
Everyone, I'm reviving this old thread to update everyone on the status of the RFC: We've continued working on implementation and everything seems to be proceeding smoothly. We evaluated Elasticsearch and were super impressed and decided it was very likely to be worth switching from Solr4 to it.

[Wikitech-l] Request for Comments: New Search

2013-06-14 Thread Nikolas Everett
So Chad and I feel like we've gotten far enough in our prototype of our new search backend for MediaWiki that we're ready to request comments. So here is our format RFC: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/CirrusSearch You'll note that the plugin is called CirrusSearch. SolrSearc