Re: [Wikitech-l] Revision metadata as a service?

2014-11-12 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
W dniu środa, 12 listopada 2014 Anthony Cole ahcole...@gmail.com napisał(a): Allow us to tag the log entry of normal revisions (not pending changes/flagged revisions - no medical articles presently have flagged revisions, and none are likely to in the near future) as having been reviewed for

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revision metadata as a service?

2014-11-12 Thread Anthony Cole
Thanks Bartosz. Just to clarify: If we apply FlaggedRevs to all medical articles (articles that have the WP:MED template on their talk page), configured to display the latest article version, can we create a permission (say, Medicine Reviewer) that allows one to tag the revision log entry with a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revision metadata as a service?

2014-11-12 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
Note that I am not an expert, really – I hail from the Polish Wikipedia which has FlaggedRevs enabled for all articles (using a pretty simple configuration), and I played with it a bit on a private wiki. On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 02:38:00 +0100, Anthony Cole ahcole...@gmail.com wrote: If we

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revision metadata as a service?

2014-11-11 Thread Anthony Cole
As someone who patrols recent changes to our 33,000 (and rising) health sciences-related articles with a diminishing number of colleagues, one thing developers could do to help us keep that content safe would be this: Allow us to tag the log entry of normal revisions (not pending changes/flagged

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revision metadata as a service?

2014-11-10 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Yes, a failed piece of rotting [configuration] code on en.wiki is called Pending changes; this doesn't mean that the extension, used by over 200 wikis, has been affected in any way. Nemo ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revision metadata as a service?

2014-11-09 Thread Kevin Wayne Williams
Jeroen De Dauw schreef op 2014/11/09 0:29: Hey, I suspect it isn't done because it isn't a very good way to modify a complex embedded base of software, Lila. Generally, when modifying a complex embedded base, one designs first, iterates implementation and internal testing, and then releases a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revision metadata as a service?

2014-11-09 Thread MZMcBride
Lila Tretikov wrote: We seem to really gravitate towards complexity on these things. How can we make them simple, addressing a very specific need. We can complicate later. Our wikis range in size from a few hundred revisions to hundreds of millions of revisions (and growing!). Building a scalable

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revision metadata as a service?

2014-11-09 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
FlaggedRevisions has never been rebranded. Nemo ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revision metadata as a service?

2014-11-09 Thread MZMcBride
Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: FlaggedRevisions has never been rebranded. If you say so. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Pending_Changes_enwiki_trial says Deploy FlaggedRevs extension to en.wikipedia.org while https://blog.wikimedia.org/?p=3819 says As mentioned in this post in January, the English

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revision metadata as a service?

2014-11-09 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, 1. As an editor I'd like to flag a revision as reviewed/verified by me from the revision screen or list. 2. As an editor I want to see which revisions were verified/had second opinion by other editors. That's not a service by any definition I'm aware of, that's a user

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revision metadata as a service?

2014-11-08 Thread Lila Tretikov
We seem to really gravitate towards complexity on these things. How can we make them simple, addressing a very specific need. We can complicate later. Here is a scenario (which we should start with, not architecture) 1. As an editor I'd like to flag a revision as reviewed/verified by me

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revision metadata as a service?

2014-11-08 Thread Kevin Wayne Williams
I suspect it isn't done because it isn't a very good way to modify a complex embedded base of software, Lila. Generally, when modifying a complex embedded base, one designs first, iterates implementation and internal testing, and then releases a relatively complete piece of functionality.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revision metadata as a service?

2014-11-08 Thread Aaron Halfaker
Hey Erik, I'm glad to see that we're imagining similar things. :) This project has been on my to-do list for years. I don't think that building a well-designed service and starting in labs are conflicting options. Regardless this project is marching forward in the next couple of months. I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revision metadata as a service?

2014-11-08 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, I suspect it isn't done because it isn't a very good way to modify a complex embedded base of software, Lila. Generally, when modifying a complex embedded base, one designs first, iterates implementation and internal testing, and then releases a relatively complete piece of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revision metadata as a service?

2014-11-07 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Gabriel Wicke gwi...@wikimedia.org wrote: What are the indexing requirements for this metadata? If fast access by specific properties is needed Most typically, I'm guessing you'd do stuff on a per-revision basis to show quality indicators and such on page

[Wikitech-l] Revision metadata as a service?

2014-11-05 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi folks, there are many projects which have an interest in generating and querying metadata for specific revisions: - community efforts to annotate quality of specific articles - researchers analyzing revision contents (e.g. to derive quality heuristics, perform citation analysis, etc.) -

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revision metadata as a service?

2014-11-05 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I wonder if this might be useful for per-page glossaries? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Scoped_language_converter --scott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revision metadata as a service?

2014-11-05 Thread Gabriel Wicke
Erik, On 11/05/2014 10:07 AM, Erik Moeller wrote: I'm wondering if a lightweight service that satisfies the following requirements might be a good idea: - community-created schemas (similar to the EventLogging schemas on meta) - basic per-user authentication/authorization - basic