Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-26 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Chengbin Zhengchengbinzh...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know how long it takes to create a static HTML dump? A month? It would depend completely on your hardware. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-26 Thread Chengbin Zheng
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 8:51 PM, K. Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Chengbin Zhengchengbinzh...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know how long it takes to create a static HTML dump? A month? ___ Wikitech-l mailing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-22 Thread Dmitriy Sintsov
* Tei oscar.vi...@gmail.com [Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:42:45 +0200]: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Chengbin Zhengchengbinzh...@gmail.com wrote: ... No, I know what parsing means. Even if it takes 2 days to parse them, wouldn't it be faster than to actually create a static HTML dump the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-22 Thread Chengbin Zheng
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Dmitriy Sintsov ques...@rambler.ru wrote: * Tei oscar.vi...@gmail.com [Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:42:45 +0200]: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Chengbin Zhengchengbinzh...@gmail.com wrote: ... No, I know what parsing means. Even if it takes 2 days to parse

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-22 Thread Tei
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Chengbin Zhengchengbinzh...@gmail.com wrote: ... Yes, the TombRaider version is exactly the version I want for static HTML. Just curious, is pages-articles.xml.bz2http://download.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20090713/enwiki-20090713-pages-articles.xml.bz2 like a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-22 Thread Chengbin Zheng
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Tei oscar.vi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Chengbin Zhengchengbinzh...@gmail.com wrote: ... Yes, the TombRaider version is exactly the version I want for static HTML. Just curious, is pages-articles.xml.bz2

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-22 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Teioscar.vi...@gmail.com wrote: At a point, Brion compressed it to 242 MB. http://www.mail-archive.com/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/msg00358.html It looks like it was Platonides, not Brion, and as far as I can tell, Gregory Maxwell said his compression

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-22 Thread Chengbin Zheng
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.comsimetrical%2bwikil...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Teioscar.vi...@gmail.com wrote: At a point, Brion compressed it to 242 MB.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-21 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:33 AM, Kwan Ting Chank...@ktchan.info wrote: I know you want to avoid using command line, but in this case it's really much simpler / only feasible choice to search the internet / ask around for the right commands and issue that on the command line. It's only going to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-21 Thread Chengbin Zheng
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Kwan Ting Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote: Chengbin Zheng wrote: Thank you for dropping by and sharing this information with us Tomasz! It is good just knowing that it is in the queue. Have you considered making a version of static HTML Wikipedia where there

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-21 Thread Lane, Ryan
Actually, I do have to learn everything. I know absolutely nothing about HTML and all the stuff (Maybe I will when I take the computer science course in grade 10). Think of it this way, you have a radioactive material decay problem, where you want to find out how much mass is left

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-21 Thread Chengbin Zheng
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Lane, Ryan ryan.l...@ocean.navo.navy.milwrote: Actually, I do have to learn everything. I know absolutely nothing about HTML and all the stuff (Maybe I will when I take the computer science course in grade 10). Think of it this way, you have a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-21 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Chengbin Zhengchengbinzh...@gmail.com wrote: On a side note, if parsing the XML gets you the static HTML version of Wikipedia, why can't Wikimedia just parse it for us and save a lot of our time (parsing and learning), and use that as the static HTML dump

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-21 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Chengbin Zhengchengbinzh...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't parsing it be faster than actually creating that many HTMLs? Parsing it *is* creating the HTML files. That's what parsing means in MediaWiki, converting wikitext to HTML. It's kind of a misnomer, admittedly.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-21 Thread Chengbin Zheng
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.comsimetrical%2bwikil...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Chengbin Zhengchengbinzh...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't parsing it be faster than actually creating that many HTMLs? Parsing it *is* creating the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-21 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Chengbin Zhengchengbinzh...@gmail.com wrote: No, I know what parsing means. Even if it takes 2 days to parse them, wouldn't it be faster than to actually create a static HTML dump the traditional way? I don't know. I can only speculate. Whatever it is, it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-21 Thread Tei
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Chengbin Zhengchengbinzh...@gmail.com wrote: ... No, I know what parsing means. Even if it takes 2 days to parse them, wouldn't it be faster than to actually create a static HTML dump the traditional way? If it is not, then what is the difficulty of making

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-21 Thread Daniel Schwen
wouldn't it be faster than to actually create a static HTML dump the traditional way? The content is wiki-text. It has to be parsed to be turned into HTML. There isn't a more traditional way, because there is no other way. Wouldn't it be possible to dump the parser cache instead of dumping

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-21 Thread Chad
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Teioscar.vi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Chengbin Zhengchengbinzh...@gmail.com wrote: ... No, I know what parsing means. Even if it takes 2 days to parse them, wouldn't it be faster than to actually create a static HTML dump the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-21 Thread Chengbin Zheng
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Teioscar.vi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Chengbin Zhengchengbinzh...@gmail.com wrote: ... No, I know what parsing means. Even if it takes 2 days to parse them,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-21 Thread Chengbin Zheng
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Chengbin Zheng chengbinzh...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Teioscar.vi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Chengbin Zhengchengbinzh...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-21 Thread Tei
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Chengbin Zhengchengbinzh...@gmail.com wrote: .. Why would you download Wikipedia? Internet is so readily available, and the online version has images. It obviusly don't make much sense for final users. It has been discused before anyway..

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-20 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Chengbin Zhengchengbinzh...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that reply doesn't work. So I'll send a new message. Since the static HTML Wikipedia is not updating (please update), and XML updates like everyday, the logical choice is to go with XML. Is there any way to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-20 Thread Aryeh Gregor
. . . I should mention, also, that I believe the one in charge of dumps is Tomasz Finc. You may want to ask him about whether there are plans to resume the static HTML dumps. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-20 Thread Chengbin Zheng
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.comsimetrical%2bwikil...@gmail.com wrote: . . . I should mention, also, that I believe the one in charge of dumps is Tomasz Finc. You may want to ask him about whether there are plans to resume the static HTML dumps.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-20 Thread Chengbin Zheng
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.comsimetrical%2bwikil...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Chengbin Zhengchengbinzh...@gmail.com wrote: I tried through Wikipedia mail, and I can't reach him. How do you use mediawiki? There are no

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-20 Thread Tomasz Finc
Chengbin Zheng wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.comsimetrical%2bwikil...@gmail.com wrote: . . . I should mention, also, that I believe the one in charge of dumps is Tomasz Finc. You may want to ask him about whether there are plans to resume

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple way to convert XML to HTML

2009-07-20 Thread Chengbin Zheng
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: Chengbin Zheng wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com simetrical%2bwikil...@gmail.com simetrical%2bwikil...@gmail.com simetrical%252bwikil...@gmail.com wrote: . . . I