Re: [Wikitech-l] Some suggestions about the edit page.

2010-01-13 Thread Robert Leverington
On 2010-01-13, Tei wrote: %% The Death of Wiki %% Ultimatelly, al wikis lose the war against entropy and are abandoned. This will hit all wikipedia wikis, and all based on mediawiki. While you can't stop that, you can code something so the resulting dead body of wiki is not pure shit. A

Re: [Wikitech-l] Some suggestions about the edit page.

2010-01-13 Thread Tei
2010/1/13 Robert Leverington rob...@rhl.me.uk: On 2010-01-13, Tei wrote: %% The Death of Wiki %% ... you can't stop that, you can code something so the resulting dead body of wiki is not pure shit.   A possible idea could be to auto-protect pages without edit in N years (4 years), ... The

Re: [Wikitech-l] Some suggestions about the edit page.

2010-01-13 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/1/13 Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com: We have this in the Drafts extension, don't we?  I don't know what its status is. We at the usability initiative have the intention to integrate that at some point, but no concrete plans yet AFAICT. %% Un-cruft mode %% There seems to be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Some suggestions about the edit page.

2010-01-13 Thread Robert Rohde
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Tei oscar.vi...@gmail.com wrote: %% Not multiple edits on same template %% I think the edit  page sould be more smart.   If a user open the same page two times, the second time

Re: [Wikitech-l] Some suggestions about the edit page.

2010-01-13 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote: If there is an autosave type of function, and it is enabled, then one could control for duplicate windows using that communication stream. I don't see how you could reliably detect whether the other window is still open at

Re: [Wikitech-l] Some suggestions about the edit page.

2010-01-13 Thread Robert Rohde
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: I actually like the idea of an autosave, but I could see how it might not be a high priority (and could eventually be something of resource hog if people are allowed to leave a lot of uncommitted drafts lying

Re: [Wikitech-l] Some suggestions about the edit page.

2010-01-13 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote: As I recall, someone did an analysis and reported that people click on edit more than twice as often as they actually save an edit.  If half of all database text were abandoned drafts, that would be dumb. Would WMF come

Re: [Wikitech-l] Some suggestions about the edit page.

2010-01-13 Thread Lars Aronsson
Robert Rohde wrote: As I recall, someone did an analysis and reported that people click on edit more than twice as often as they actually save an edit. It might be useful to save every preview at the server as a personal draft, a new version of the the page [[Special:Draft]], visible only to