Re: [Wikitech-l] URLs that aren't cool...

2009-07-29 Thread Andrew Dunbar
2009/7/29 Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.yu: Дана Tuesday 28 July 2009 19:16:22 Brion Vibber написа: On 7/28/09 10:04 AM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Mark Williamsonnode...@gmail.com wrote: Case insensitivity shouldn't be a problem for any language, as long as

Re: [Wikitech-l] URLs that aren't cool...

2009-07-29 Thread Tim Starling
Aryeh Gregor wrote: (But at least we could get rid of the silly Text/DbKey distinction while we're doing this. I've heard recent MySQL versions actually support storage of ASCII space characters in text fields!) Apparently this poor design choice was made due to some bogus concept of

[Wikitech-l] URLs that aren't cool...

2009-07-28 Thread Paul Houle
I've been looking at the id structure of dbpedia and wikipedia and finally found an example where case sensitivity issues really bite. Cases like this with a redirect are a little obnoxious, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_york_city largely because

Re: [Wikitech-l] URLs that aren't cool...

2009-07-28 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Paul Houlep...@ontology2.com wrote: I've been looking at the id structure of dbpedia and wikipedia and finally found an example where case sensitivity issues really bite. We should keep in mind that case isn't so clear-cut if you move away from English, though

Re: [Wikitech-l] URLs that aren't cool...

2009-07-28 Thread Mark Williamson
Case insensitivity shouldn't be a problem for any language, as long as you do it properly. Turkish and other languages using dotless i, for example, will need a special rule - Turkish lowercase dotted i capitalizes to a capital dotted İ while lowercase undotted ı capitalizes to regular undotted

Re: [Wikitech-l] URLs that aren't cool...

2009-07-28 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Mark Williamsonnode...@gmail.com wrote: Case insensitivity shouldn't be a problem for any language, as long as you do it properly. Turkish and other languages using dotless i, for example, will need a special rule - Turkish lowercase dotted i capitalizes to a

Re: [Wikitech-l] URLs that aren't cool...

2009-07-28 Thread Brion Vibber
On 7/28/09 10:04 AM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Mark Williamsonnode...@gmail.com wrote: Case insensitivity shouldn't be a problem for any language, as long as you do it properly. Turkish and other languages using dotless i, for example, will need a special rule -

Re: [Wikitech-l] URLs that aren't cool...

2009-07-28 Thread Mark Williamson
Since when does Spanish drop accent markers in capital form? If you have seen anybody do this, it is just a misspelling. For example: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ópera or http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/África or http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Océano_Índico I have been told that Greek drops accents

Re: [Wikitech-l] URLs that aren't cool...

2009-07-28 Thread Tei
The related wikipedia article write that it was a urband leyend: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acentuaci%C3%B3n_de_las_may%C3%BAsculas So is wrong to drop these accents. On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Mark Williamsonnode...@gmail.com wrote: Since when does Spanish drop accent markers in

Re: [Wikitech-l] URLs that aren't cool...

2009-07-28 Thread Brion Vibber
On 7/28/09 10:30 AM, Tei wrote: The related wikipedia article write that it was a urband leyend: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acentuaci%C3%B3n_de_las_may%C3%BAsculas Dang! I've been taken in again by exposure to real-world practice instead of what's correct. ;) (In any case, handling that

Re: [Wikitech-l] URLs that aren't cool...

2009-07-28 Thread Roan Kattouw
2009/7/28 Mark Williamson node...@gmail.com: Since when does Spanish drop accent markers in capital form? If you have seen anybody do this, it is just a misspelling. For example: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ópera or http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/África or

Re: [Wikitech-l] URLs that aren't cool...

2009-07-28 Thread Helder Geovane Gomes de Lima
2009/7/28 Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org: A nearer-term help would be to go ahead and implement what we talked about a billion years ago but never got around to -- a decent did you mean X? message to display when you go to an empty page but there's something similar nearby. If it's at

Re: [Wikitech-l] URLs that aren't cool...

2009-07-28 Thread Platonides
Brion Vibber wrote: On 7/28/09 10:30 AM, Tei wrote: The related wikipedia article write that it was a urband leyend: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acentuaci%C3%B3n_de_las_may%C3%BAsculas Dang! I've been taken in again by exposure to real-world practice instead of what's correct. ;) Once

Re: [Wikitech-l] URLs that aren't cool...

2009-07-28 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Дана Tuesday 28 July 2009 19:16:22 Brion Vibber написа: On 7/28/09 10:04 AM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Mark Williamsonnode...@gmail.com wrote: Case insensitivity shouldn't be a problem for any language, as long as you do it properly. Turkish and other