Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Developer Summit 2017 discussion

2016-09-29 Thread tom29739
On 29 Sep 2016 10:10 pm, "Marcin Cieslak" wrote: > > Dnia 28.09.2016 Quim Gil napisał/a: > > > Summit sessions are considered tasks themselves, not just a conversation > > happening in a room and eventually documented in a wiki page. > > I think this kind of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Developer Summit 2017 discussion

2016-09-29 Thread Marcin Cieslak
Dnia 28.09.2016 Quim Gil napisał/a: > Summit sessions are considered tasks themselves, not just a conversation > happening in a room and eventually documented in a wiki page. I think this kind of captures the opinions expressed here very well (if it could be one sentence).

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Developer Summit 2017 discussion

2016-09-29 Thread Marcin Cieslak
Dnia 28.09.2016 Yaron Koren napisał/a: > Hi Quim, > > Most relevantly, the Chaos Communications Congress wiki uses the Semantic > Forms [1] extension to handle submissions - speakers use a form to enter > their talk proposals. I don't know how exactly talks are approved, or >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Developer Summit 2017 discussion

2016-09-29 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I agree with bawolff, although I also see Quim's point about reopening this discussion at this particular point in time. But I think it's an important conversation to have, even if it's not going to be directly relevant to this year's dev summit. We used to have a project called "Flow", short

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Developer Summit 2017 discussion

2016-09-29 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 14:23 -0700, Info WorldUniversity wrote: > Is there a current (curated) summary of all the good suggestions for > WikiDev themes, and structuring of conference If I get the question correctly that's likely https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Developer_Summit For

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Developer Summit 2017 discussion

2016-09-28 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! > In what way do you think that MediaWiki is not designed to promote and > foster online collaboration? Depends on purpose of collaboration. For some things - like project maintenance, planning, tracking, etc. - it's far from the best. Deep discussion is also not without friction (phab is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Developer Summit 2017 discussion

2016-09-28 Thread MZMcBride
Wikitech-l on behalf of Rob Lanphier wrote: >On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 2:27 AM, Legoktm >wrote: >> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Principles > >The edit history of that page is telling. Be bold. > It may be a little naive to hope [dogfooding] will somehow make our

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Developer Summit 2017 discussion

2016-09-28 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi Legoktm, Quim explained why this discussion is probably a moot point (for this year's summit) at . He's the chair of Program committee, and he's calling the shots on our tooling choice. He's said "it is too late to start a discussion about

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Developer Summit 2017 discussion

2016-09-28 Thread Brian Wolff
> > It is easy to reply "yes, of course", but looking at the overall list of > possible improvements of MediaWiki, I think the Wikimedia movement would > prefer the investment of developer time in other areas. These cases are > imho too niche from the perspective of writing free encyclopedias, >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Developer Summit 2017 discussion

2016-09-28 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Quim, Although I have used MediaWiki as a mechanism to submit conference > proposals (here and in my previous job), I don't think I know any MediaWiki > user or any event organizer out of Wikimedia using MediaWiki to handle a > call for participation. Wikimania and some WikiCons do, but I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Developer Summit 2017 discussion

2016-09-28 Thread Quim Gil
Hi, I am sorry but this discussion about this basic principle arrives too late. We have been using Phabricator to submit proposals in the past two years, and although the feedback about this was "polarizing", all in all it was considered positive with ideas for improvement [0] [1]. We could have

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Developer Summit 2017 discussion

2016-09-28 Thread Legoktm
Hi, On 09/27/2016 09:55 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > It's really unfortunate that you consider use of Phabricator to be > demoralizing, though. I don't want to push something that seems > demoralizing to a great contributor like yourself. More on this in a > bit > > It may be a little naive

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Developer Summit 2017 discussion

2016-09-27 Thread Rob Lanphier
At the risk of threadjacking about dogfooding On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Legoktm wrote: > On 09/27/2016 03:57 AM, Quim Gil wrote: >> * Phabricator form to submit Wikimedia developer Summit 2017 proposals >> (urgent because it blocks the opening of the call

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Developer Summit 2017 discussion

2016-09-27 Thread Legoktm
Hi, On 09/27/2016 03:57 AM, Quim Gil wrote: > * Phabricator form to submit Wikimedia developer Summit 2017 proposals > (urgent because it blocks the opening of the call for participation) > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146377 I have proposed the opposite on the ticket[1] - I believe we

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Developer Summit 2017 discussion

2016-09-27 Thread Info WorldUniversity
Rob, Quim and Wikidatans, Is there a current (curated) summary of all the good suggestions for WikiDev themes, and structuring of conference, in various email threads from the past week or two which you could possibly suggest looking at as key organizers of this? (I shared some Wikimedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Developer Summit 2017 discussion

2016-09-27 Thread Quim Gil
Thank you Rob! I am looking forward to Wednesday meeting. On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 6:28 AM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > I'm hoping we find a way to work with people who can't > travel, and noting we're also working to make remote participation > more rewarding. This emphasizes

[Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Developer Summit 2017 discussion

2016-09-26 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi everyone, Abstract --- This mail doubles as an invitation to come to this week's ArchCom office hour (Phab:E285), and provides an attempt to provide answers to questions about the agenda of the Wikimedia Developer Summit (WikiDev17). I'm hoping we find a way to work with people who