Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-29 Thread Ender
> Correction, it seems despite first appearances the project was never > born. Its CVS tree is empty. Suckage. > > Rereading Enders email I can't quite decide if he stubbed Qt out in > order to get it running on Win32 or not if we were to track KHTML > CVS, stubs would be the only solution, but

Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-29 Thread winedev
> Mozilla is going to be the way to go if Demi can get the gecko to build > and work as a WINElib app now that it can be built with Mingw. Once that > is done we will know what needs to be fixed in WINE to support it as > either a elf or PE binary. Plus it will save us on the ReactOS side some > wo

Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-29 Thread Ender
> Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 14:46:36 -0700 > From: Paul McNett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec? > > Mike Hearn writes: > > > > Anyway, that's all rather off-topic... we can already build a CHM >

Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-29 Thread Sylvain Petreolle
Quoting Paul McNett : "Yes, even if its just plain-text for the time being, any CHM viewer is better than no CHM viewer." We have some "NYI" in Wine code, no problem with that. > The problem with that approach is that many CHM files rely on some > IE-only extensions and/or quirks. Gecko seems t

Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-29 Thread Paul McNett
Mike Hearn writes: > > Anyway, that's all rather off-topic... we can already build a CHM > > viewer, it's displaying the HTML/JS that's the problem :) > > Good to know you're still around! Simply getting a super-basic > WebBrowser implementation up and running, in Wine, no matter how it's > built/

Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-29 Thread Vincent Béron
Le mer 28/05/2003 à 16:30, Steven Edwards a écrit : > > b) it'd be based on either khtml or mozilla. not starting a new > > rendering engine. > > Mozilla is going to be the way to go if Demi can get the gecko to build and work as > a WINElib app > now that it can be built with Mingw. Once that is

Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-29 Thread Steven Edwards
> b) it'd be based on either khtml or mozilla. not starting a new > rendering engine. Mozilla is going to be the way to go if Demi can get the gecko to build and work as a WINElib app now that it can be built with Mingw. Once that is done we will know what needs to be fixed in WINE to support it

Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-29 Thread Mike Hearn
> And yeah, that would be sadly true if we start yet another browser > project, when we already have Mozilla and KHTML... :/ It's hardly a new browser project. a) It wouldn't be about developing a browser. Who gives a monkeys about browseui, favourites etc. We only care about the rendering engine

Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-29 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Oh no - you open software developers are off your head! Next thing you And yeah, that would be sadly true if we start yet another browser project, when we already have Mozilla and KHTML... :/ -- Dimi.

Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-29 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Mike Hearn wrote: Anyway, as to maintainership, this is a good question. But how comes adding a clone of IE is nuts, but the rest of Wine is sane, hmm? :) This whole thing is completely crazy to some extent, but here we are in 2003 with two companies working on Wine and many volunteers it woul

Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-29 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Mike Hearn wrote: Unfortunately, it seems KWQ is mostly MacOS specific. It's written in Objective C++, a language I didn't even suspect the existance of until I read the sources. Example: ... As if C++ wasn't hard enough to read already! On a 100% unrelated note, and since this list does no

Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-29 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On 28 May 2003, Mike Hearn wrote: > Rereading Enders email I can't quite decide if he stubbed Qt out in > order to get it running on Win32 or not if we were to track KHTML > CVS, stubs would be the only solution, but as it might need to be forked

Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-29 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On 28 May 2003, Mike Hearn wrote: > Unfortunately, it seems KWQ is mostly MacOS specific. It's written in > Objective C++, a language I didn't even suspect the existance of until I > read the sources. Example: > > QListBox::~QListBox() > { > NSTableView *tableView = [(NSScrollView *)getView()

Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-29 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On 28 May 2003, Mike Hearn wrote: > Running through 3 translation layers is going to suck though. > > KHTML -> KWQ -> Wine -> Linux I don't think it's all that bad. Currently we have: KHTML -> WebCore -> Cocoa or KHTML -> QT -> Linux I don't think KWQ will add much overhead, it's going t

Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-29 Thread Mark Westcott
The AtheOS guy de Qt ised KTHML a while back: http://www.atheos.cx/news.php3 search for KHTML. I can't find the source at the moment though. This is probably already widley out of date. I agree with Dimi however that stubbs are gonna be the way to go however, maintaining a port isn't going to

Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-29 Thread Mike Hearn
> You guys are nuts! :) Who is going to maintain all this. This is a > *large* project. Look at Mozilla for crying out loud, a full blown > HTML/JS/etc. engine will easily double the size/scope of Wine. (broken my promise already :) I only said fork cos I don't think the KHTML team would accept

Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-29 Thread Mike Hearn
> Any current efforts to port WebCore to Win32? Or it's maybe easier > to create a WinCode? BTW, any idea how big this effort is? In a minute I'll get on with some work and stop spamming everyone. One last thing, the WebCore framework isn't what we're interested in, we want KWQ (pronounced quack a

Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-29 Thread Mike Hearn
> The project seems to have died around jan/feb of this year, Correction, it seems despite first appearances the project was never born. Its CVS tree is empty. Suckage. Rereading Enders email I can't quite decide if he stubbed Qt out in order to get it running on Win32 or not if we were to tr

Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-29 Thread Mike Hearn
> Any current efforts to port WebCore to Win32? Or it's maybe easier > to create a WinCode? BTW, any idea how big this effort is? Use Google power dimi! First hit for "khtml win32": http://khtml-win32.sourceforge.net/ The project seems to have died around jan/feb of this year, but I think he got

Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-29 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On 28 May 2003, Mike Hearn wrote: > > Isn't the eventual goal of WebCore to de-QTfy them? QT is a show > > stopper due to licensing > > WebCore is a set of Qt stubs as far as I know, which map Qt onto the > MacOS APIs. It's like Wine, but for Qt. Any current efforts to port WebCore to Win32? Or

Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-29 Thread Mike Hearn
> Isn't the eventual goal of WebCore to de-QTfy them? QT is a show > stopper due to licensing WebCore is a set of Qt stubs as far as I know, which map Qt onto the MacOS APIs. It's like Wine, but for Qt. > I haven't followed this lately, but I > thought WebCode will eventually get rid of QT, an

Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-28 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On May 28, 2003 06:56 am, Ender wrote: > However KHTML and KJS -are- tied to the QT library. It's quite possible to > decouple them (the embedded konq suite already does this to some extent, > as does WebCore from Apple's Safari project)... however it is somewhat > time consuming. Using WebCore can

Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-28 Thread Mike Hearn
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 11:56, Ender wrote: > I've already written the major chuck of a CHM viewer - to the point I have > a native Windows viewer using nothing but the WebBrowser ActiveX control. This would be a good thing to submit anyway. It's been possible (though not easy) to install IE into Wi

Re: Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-28 Thread Ender
http://www.quakesrc.org/ | our distribution should be ignored with http://www.enderboi.com/ | extreme prejudice" - [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 28 May 2003, Pabs3 wrote: > Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 03:07:52 -0400 > From: Pabs3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Wine folks interested in a CHM spec?

2003-05-28 Thread Pabs3
Hi wine peeps, Just wondering if Wine folks are implementing a chm viewer and if you would be interested in a specification on the internal files of CHMs and even relicencing some of the code for my chm decompiler. all at http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/hhm/ BTW; please cc me in replies since, whil