Re: winealsa: improve sound quality for IDsDriverImpl

2003-09-30 Thread Jerry Jenkins
Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: That's still a compile-time check. A runtime check runs when wine runs... But the test is really a time-cost task. I won't merge it into WINEALSA if I can't improve it. Does anyone have any suggestions? -- Dimi.

Re: uxtheme.dll

2003-09-30 Thread Roderick Colenbrander
I hope you know what you will begin with. (For the ones that don't know uxtheme.dll is the dll that takes care of all theming on WinXP and it is the dll that dlls like comctl32 and all others use for theming) Some time ago I checked out uxtheme.dll a bit and it seems that it needs changes all

Re: Question about WineX licences

2003-09-30 Thread Jonathan Wilson
Everything that's LGPL should be listed on the above page. Additionally, code in ReWind is X11. Anything else in WineX may be assumed AFPL, but may also be released as X11 at TransGaming's discretion. I think most non-DirectX code (and even a limited subset of the DirectX code) could be released

RE: uxtheme.dll

2003-09-30 Thread Mike Jackson
I would be glad to be of any assistance I can be in this matter. I think wine is a great project, and I have been looking for the right project to immerse my self in. I think I've just found it :-) Mike Jackson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: Trouble installing MS SQLserver 2000 Client Tools

2003-09-30 Thread Mike Hearn
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 18:07, Craig Davison wrote: Hi, I've been trying to install the SQLserver Client Tools with Wine 20030911 (on Redhat 9). The setup process fails near the beginning because it cannot install MDAC (Setup is installing Microsoft Data Access Components (MDAC) ...).

Re: Start menu (especially for Alexandre Julliard)

2003-09-30 Thread Mike Hearn
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 22:06, Robert van Herk wrote: As I understand (from the explanation by Russell Howe (thanx:-))), there is a script called wineshelllink that is supposed to install the created start menu items in your KDE menu. Indeed. It is rather broken though. It works sometimes, but

Re: wine ccache

2003-09-30 Thread Mike Hearn
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 01:40, Alexandre Julliard wrote: One problem is that most makefiles specify different defines, so you basically need to have one different rule for each C file. Then there are many files that have explicit rules. It could be done, but I don't think it's worth it, and the

Re: uxtheme.dll

2003-09-30 Thread Mike Hearn
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 04:43, Sylvain Petreolle wrote: This isnt a windows system dll. Isnt that another attempt like cards.dll ? Sure it is. Apps attempt to LoadLibrary it if they detect it to enhance their drawing capabilities. It's conceivable that one day apps will not have this backwards

Re: winealsa: improve sound quality for IDsDriverImpl

2003-09-30 Thread Mike Hearn
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 07:43, Jerry Jenkins wrote: But the test is really a time-cost task. I won't merge it into WINEALSA if I can't improve it. Does anyone have any suggestions? Well I for one am a bit confused. The reason it needs to be a runtime check is so we can compile Wine on one

Re: Question about WineX licences

2003-09-30 Thread Ove Kaaven
tir, 30.09.2003 kl. 09.39 skrev Jonathan Wilson: Everything that's LGPL should be listed on the above page. Additionally, code in ReWind is X11. Anything else in WineX may be assumed AFPL, but may also be released as X11 at TransGaming's discretion. I think most non-DirectX code (and even

Re: Wineconf 2004, otherwise known as...

2003-09-30 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
Mike Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the Russian Winter is a common exaggeration, like a stray bear in every russian town, a hidden communist in each russian, and many others :-) I notice vodka isn't in that list of common exaggerations - party on! :) It's included in the list of

Re: uxtheme.dll

2003-09-30 Thread Roderick Colenbrander
Ofcourse I want uxtheme.dll implemented since it is a very cool new dll but I think a problem will be that it needs changes in various parts of Wine. Mainly in the user and common control area. Microsoft releases two sets of comctl32 dlls. One of them is meant for backwards compatibility.

Re: shlwapi 405/406

2003-09-30 Thread Jon Griffiths
Hi, --- Alexandre Julliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Precisely, this way it's obvious which functions are meant to be used by Win32 apps and which are internal to Wine. Hmm, I think any programmer who thinks a static function in one of the implementation files of a given dll can possibly be

Re: expand on -documentation of -dll option

2003-09-30 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Bill Medland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill Medland ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Expand the documentation on the --dll option +Syntax: -dll name[,name[,...]]={native|so|builtin}[,{n|s|b}[,...]] +- 'name' is the name of any dll without extension +- the order of loading (native, so and

Re: wine ccache

2003-09-30 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 01:16:17PM +0100, Mike Hearn wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 01:40, Alexandre Julliard wrote: One problem is that most makefiles specify different defines, so you basically need to have one different rule for each C file. Then there are many files that have explicit

Re: uxtheme.dll

2003-09-30 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On September 30, 2003 10:57 am, Roderick Colenbrander wrote: Microsoft releases two sets of comctl32 dlls. One of them is meant for backwards compatibility. Do you have any idea why would that be needed? -- Dimi.

Re: Question about WineX licences

2003-09-30 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On September 30, 2003 09:16 am, Ove Kaaven wrote: Now the LGPL-ness of Wine actually makes it an advantage to hold code back from Wine in some circumstances, whether you and I like it or not. Your argument is valid right now because there was not attempt to abstract the copy protection through

Re: shlwapi 405/406

2003-09-30 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On September 29, 2003 05:31 pm, Jon Griffiths wrote: But since you're adament, this should probably be made a janitorial task; internal stdcall functions are currently used in other places (5 other files in shlwapi, for example). It doesn't seem that much of a problem, a patch would be simpler

Re: wine ccache

2003-09-30 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On September 30, 2003 08:16 am, Mike Hearn wrote: Maybe oneday it would be worth porting the Wine build system to SCons (http://www.scons.org/). From What makes SCons better: Whenever I look at make replacements, I always find them more cluttered/verbose/uglier, but this may be because I'm so

Re: uxtheme.dll

2003-09-30 Thread Roderick Colenbrander
The old dll that MS ships with WindowsXP is comctl32.dll version 5.x which is the same as on other Windows versions. Version 6 is the new version. One of the biggest changes is that this updated dll handles both the user and common controls. Further all controls now include some area in which

Re: Question about WineX licences

2003-09-30 Thread Ove Kaaven
tir, 30.09.2003 kl. 17.16 skrev Dimitrie O. Paun: On September 30, 2003 09:16 am, Ove Kaaven wrote: Now the LGPL-ness of Wine actually makes it an advantage to hold code back from Wine in some circumstances, whether you and I like it or not. Your argument is valid right now because there

Re: Wineconf 2004, otherwise known as...

2003-09-30 Thread Keith Matthews
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:40:50 +0900 Dmitry Timoshkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have always wanted to see the Russian Winter so I guess St. Paul in January is good practice. Well, the Russian Winter is a common exaggeration, like a stray bear in

Re: Question about WineX licences

2003-09-30 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On September 30, 2003 11:51 am, Ove Kaaven wrote: And it's impossible because the patch we're talking about does not actually implement copy protection. It only makes Wine implement certain Windows quirks. For Wine not to implement these quirks in certain APIs may be considered bugs, and how

Re: Script to compile Wine programs on Windows

2003-09-30 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On September 29, 2003 03:33 pm, Alexandre Julliard wrote: No it won't, that's why we need to change bin2res to generate only a single file at a time, otherwise it breaks parallel makes. OK, how about this: ChangeLog Teach bin2res to deal with one file at a time. Index: tools/bin2res.c

Re: Wineconf 2004, otherwise known as...

2003-09-30 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 11:33:00AM +0300, Boaz Harrosh wrote: Just a crazy taught: What about a twin Wineconf, one in north-America one in Europe taking place at the same time with live tele-conference. (Europe cameras on me) I am sure it will be good for publicity, Journalists like that

Re: Updated winetests.exe

2003-09-30 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On September 27, 2003 07:42 pm, Jakob Eriksson wrote: Do you want a second file generated apart from the mail sent to wine-tests-report? (If yes, where should this file be sent?) I'm not sure I like this idea. Correlating the two files is

Re: Updated winetests.exe

2003-09-30 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Jakob Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 02:29:48PM +0200, Ferenc Wagner wrote: Tester= field should be given slightly more emphasis, and How can I add more emphasis to it? Sorry for my vague language, is reflects my vague thoughts. Currently, it is amongst cryptic

Re: Updated winetests.exe

2003-09-30 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On September 29, 2003 05:31 pm, Ferenc Wagner wrote: I did not like this idea either, but decided to go with it in the end. First, to generate summaries I have to correlate files anyway, which *is* problematic already, and having a master file could only make it simpler and also make the

Re: Wineconf 2004, otherwise known as...

2003-09-30 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 11:33:00AM +0300, Boaz Harrosh wrote: Just a crazy taught: What about a twin Wineconf, one in north-America one in Europe taking place at the same time with live tele-conference. (Europe cameras on me) I am sure it will be good for publicity, Journalists like that

Re: PATCH: server/trace.c cleanup (RETRY)

2003-09-30 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Gerald Pfeifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [ 2nd attempt. I really don't see any viable alternative to these casts; keeping the status quo certainly seems bad. ] That code is generated, there's no point in fixing it. You need to change tools/make_requests. -- Alexandre Julliard [EMAIL

Re: Start menu (especially for Alexandre Julliard)

2003-09-30 Thread Francois Gouget
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Mike McCormack wrote: Robert van Herk wrote: Mike McCormack wrote: Ideally, you'd want to write a Gnome VFS module that calls shell32.dll and queries the shell name space to generate the start menu the same way Windows does. You need to use some RPC mechanism to

Start menu (continued ...)

2003-09-30 Thread Robert van Herk
Hi all... As I understand, right now there are various standards on how to write menus for Linux, that are incompatible. That would mean that writing a grand unified ;-) start menu client as I discussed before is currently impossible. What could be made already though, is a Wine deamon that

Re: PATCH: stop crashes in desktop mode

2003-09-30 Thread Mike Hearn
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 18:13, Alexandre Julliard wrote: The default is managed mode, and has been for a long time now. I'm confused then - [EMAIL PROTECTED] x11drv]$ cvs diff window.c Index: window.c === RCS file:

Re: PATCH: stop crashes in desktop mode

2003-09-30 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Mike Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: is_window_managed returns false if none of the conditions match. Is it the case that one of the conditions will always cause it to return true? For windows that need to be managed yes. Even in managed mode there are some windows that are never managed, like

Re: PATCH: stop crashes in desktop mode

2003-09-30 Thread Lionel Ulmer
IIRC it does not support Xrender at all. Yes that would need to be fixed. Well, the biggest problem would be how to have direct rendering for GL in a Xnest environment. I have absolutely no idea if this is possible without hacks. And then you would also need to add RandR support to Xnest to

Re: PATCH: stop crashes in desktop mode

2003-09-30 Thread Mike Hearn
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 21:13, Alexandre Julliard wrote: For windows that need to be managed yes. Even in managed mode there are some windows that are never managed, like menus, tooltips, etc. That's what is_window_managed is for. I suppose the problem then is that we can't figure out how a

Re: PATCH: stop crashes in desktop mode

2003-09-30 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Mike Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I suppose the problem then is that we can't figure out how a fullscreen install window is different to a menu or tooltip window. Perhaps in future they too could be managed but with the appropriate hints to switch off window decorations, appearing in the

Re: Question about WineX licences

2003-09-30 Thread Mike McCormack
My guess is that Transgaming has signed an NDA with one or more of the companies that write copy protection schemes for games (eg. Safedisk), and is not even able to discuss what is required to make such hooks in Wine, or how to change the build procedure to make it possible for the scheme to

Does anyone know about WM_SETFOCUS and EN_SETFOCUS

2003-09-30 Thread Bill Medland
Is anyone out there an expert in Windows focus handling? I have problems with our application and the focus handling in places. Basically it seems to me that there is some sort of logic in windows whereby the code calls PostMessage (WM_SETFOCUS) but the result is that the parent of the target

Re: PATCH: stop crashes in desktop mode

2003-09-30 Thread Mike Hearn
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 21:57, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: In fact, what kind of problems do we have with InstallShield? It attempts to do window management across two different desktop windows causing an X11 ConfigureWindow error. We can't run it outside of desktop mode because the big blue window

Re: Start menu (continued ...)

2003-09-30 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 10:02:40PM +0200, Robert van Herk wrote: Would such a system be appreciated by the you people? Or do you think I should wait untill a better standarization is available? Or do you think creating a Windows deamon and a Linux client is too much overkill for such a

PATCH: tools/make_requests (was: PATCH: server/trace.c cleanup)

2003-09-30 Thread Gerald Pfeifer
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Alexandre Julliard wrote: That code is generated, there's no point in fixing it. You need to change tools/make_requests. Here we go. ;-) (I never had a look at this script before, and it's not documented too much, but it seems I found the right place to patch nevertheless,

Re: Updated winetests.exe

2003-09-30 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -- we should include in the master file and the test output some sort of unique identifier (a MD5 sum of sorts?) so we make sure we correlate the test output with the correct master file. I thought the build tag (which can be any

Re: PATCH: stop crashes in desktop mode

2003-09-30 Thread Uwe Bonnes
Dimitrie == Dimitrie O Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dimitrie On 30 Sep 2003, Mike Hearn wrote: future they too could be managed but with the appropriate hints to switch off window decorations, appearing in the window list etc. Dimitrie It certainly be nice to defer the

Re: Updated winetests.exe

2003-09-30 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Ferenc Wagner wrote: I thought the build tag (which can be any one-line string) was enough. Why do we need anything else? That works nicely IF Jakob builds the tests only on official releases (which should happen anyway). I guess we can hope not to do some silly things.

Re: PATCH: stop crashes in desktop mode

2003-09-30 Thread Alex Pasadyn
Mike Hearn wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 21:57, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: In fact, what kind of problems do we have with InstallShield? It attempts to do window management across two different desktop windows causing an X11 ConfigureWindow error. We can't run it outside of desktop mode because the

Re: Start menu (especially for Alexandre Julliard)

2003-09-30 Thread Dan Kegel
Francois Gouget wrote: rant The Linux desktop menus are a total mess. FreeDesktop came up with a broken standard (vfolders) to 'unify' KDE and Gnome (which were already pretty similar and relatively easy to work with). But what we need is a truly standard way to create menus for all desktop

Re: RtlGetVersionNumbers

2003-09-30 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Jon Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i don't know why this function was changed when it was moved, but it breaks some versions of msvcrt. This puts it back the way it was. There's no reason not to use the version that the user specified. If you are using XP native dlls and they break with

Re: uxtheme.dll

2003-09-30 Thread Kevin Koltzau
I'm aware of the scope of the project. The general design of uxtheme lends itself well to being done incrementally, eg. controls could be modified as support for the particular control is implemented, etc. Also part of the API are a few functions (IsThemeActive IsAppThemed) which will allow

Re: winealsa: improve sound quality for IDsDriverImpl

2003-09-30 Thread Jerry Jenkins
Well I for one am a bit confused. The reason it needs to be a runtime check is so we can compile Wine on one machine then run it on a totally different one, and Wine figures out what it can and cannot do on the fly. If we are altering its behaviour according to the capabilities of the

Re: winealsa: improve sound quality for IDsDriverImpl

2003-09-30 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Jerry Jenkins wrote: I knew. I also want it can be compiled once and run on any other machines. My point is that only the best code should go into the wine, and the test code I have written is not so¡­ :-(. It will give someone many troubles if he wants to do something