Re: A new systray patch

2004-12-13 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Mike Hearn wrote: On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 20:16 +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: I'd love to get my digital camera syncing on Linux (Mustek). It uses a shell extension. Good enough reason for you? :-) Is a shell extension really the only way you can access the camera? That's pretty poor UI desig

Re: A new systray patch

2004-12-13 Thread Mike Hearn
On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 20:16 +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > I'd love to get my digital camera syncing on Linux (Mustek). It uses a > shell extension. Good enough reason for you? :-) Is a shell extension really the only way you can access the camera? That's pretty poor UI design if so (imho :). Wh

Re: A new systray patch

2004-12-13 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Mike Hearn wrote: Shachar Shemesh wrote: Though, if we would want to support shell extensions, I don't see how we could effectively do it without having it do everything the native explorer does That would be the other reason. But, I think it makes more sense to try and bridge shell extensi

Re: A new systray patch

2004-12-13 Thread Mike Hearn
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Though, if we would want to support shell extensions, I don't see how we could effectively do it without having it do everything the native explorer does That would be the other reason. But, I think it makes more sense to try and bridge shell extensions to Nautilus/Kon

Re: A new systray patch

2004-12-13 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Alexandre Julliard wrote: Calling it Explorer would imply that it's supposed to do everything Windows explorer does, which seems a bit dubious to me. It'd be like calling the wineserver the winekernel. No, I don't see why it implies that it has to do everything the Windows one does, but it has

Re: A new systray patch

2004-12-13 Thread Holly Bostick
Alexandre Julliard wrote: No, I don't see why it implies that it has to do everything the Windows one does, Depends on whose perspective you're looking at if from. From a developer perspective, you are able to easily distinguish what invisible Explorer functions need to be replicated and which do

Re: A new systray patch

2004-12-13 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Mike Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If by explorer you mean things like the taskbar then yes, maybe once > the winedesktop works gets in (I wonder what happened to that) we'll > need some kind of task switcher/shell program. I don't think we need > an entire file browser - there is winefile b

Re: A new systray patch

2004-12-13 Thread Mike Hearn
Alexandre Julliard wrote: We will sooner or later need an Explorer clone, if only for desktop mode, and it seems to me it is exactly the right place for the systray code. If by explorer you mean things like the taskbar then yes, maybe once the winedesktop works gets in (I wonder what happened to t

Re: A new systray patch

2004-12-13 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Mike Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > No, I think that'd be misleading. It doesn't explore stuff and never > will, and it may also do other things in future that Explorer > doesn't. It's a rough analogue of Explorer in the same way that the > wineserver is a bit like the Windows kernel. We wil

Re: A new systray patch

2004-12-13 Thread Mike Hearn
Steven Edwards wrote: Maybe we should just go ahead and call it explorer in case you plan on adding stuff later on or adapting parts of ReactOS explorer. No, I think that'd be misleading. It doesn't explore stuff and never will, and it may also do other things in future that Explorer doesn't. It

Re: A new systray patch

2004-12-12 Thread Steven Edwards
Hi, --- Mike Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Add a wineshell process to stand in for Explorer > - Rewrite system tray code to be standards compliant Maybe we should just go ahead and call it explorer in case you plan on adding stuff later on or adapting parts of ReactOS explorer. Thanks St