An idea for the appdb

2009-02-11 Thread Luke Benstead
. Obviously this kind of functionality is not a job for Wine, but for the distro. Still, it got me thinking how this kind of functionality might be achieved. My idea is that the appdb should allow for people to associate a list of checksums with an application version. For example, WoW might have

Re: An idea for the appdb

2009-02-11 Thread Ben Klein
simply isn't reliable enough for this type of dependence. With any luck, that will change when the recently discussed redesign of test data submissions is set up, but it'd still take a long time for sensible data to become reasonably usable. My idea is that the appdb should allow for people

Re: An idea for the appdb

2009-02-11 Thread Luke Benstead
these lines recently. Unfortunately, AppDB simply isn't reliable enough for this type of dependence. With any luck, that will change when the recently discussed redesign of test data submissions is set up, but it'd still take a long time for sensible data to become reasonably usable. My idea

Re: An idea for the appdb

2009-02-11 Thread Ben Klein
2009/2/11 Luke Benstead kaz...@gmail.com: 2009/2/11 Ben Klein shackl...@gmail.com: 2009/2/11 Luke Benstead kaz...@gmail.com: My idea is that the appdb should allow for people to associate a list of checksums with an application version. For example, WoW might have the checksum for the setup

Re: An idea for the appdb

2009-02-11 Thread Gert van den Berg
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Luke Benstead kaz...@gmail.com wrote: I can also see what you mean about spyware, but other apps retrieve stuff from the web if there is a connection (CDDB, and album covers are two examples). Wine transmitting every application I run to someone else would be

Re: An idea for the appdb

2009-02-11 Thread Tim Schwartz
23:57:48 +1100 From: Ben Klein shackl...@gmail.com Subject: Re: An idea for the appdb To: Luke Benstead kaz...@gmail.com Cc: Wine Devel wine-devel@winehq.org Message-ID: d7e40be30902110457t3d84c396ibfd264aead12d...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2009/2/11

Re: An idea for the appdb

2009-02-11 Thread alex
Sorry .. forgot to reply all. On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:08:47 +0200, Gert van den Berg wine-de...@mohag.net wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Luke Benstead kaz...@gmail.com wrote: I can also see what you mean about spyware, but other apps retrieve stuff from the web if there is a connection

Re: An idea for the appdb

2009-02-11 Thread Austin English
This was discussed a couple months ago, nearly to death. It's a cool idea, sure, but a ton of work to do, and not really worth the effort. The data is quickly outdated with new wine versions. Some users may consider it spyware, developers would find it annoying, and overall, it would be a big

Re: An idea for the appdb

2009-02-11 Thread James Mckenzie
-Original Message- From: a...@centroidcafe.com Sent: Feb 11, 2009 10:59 AM To: wine-devel@winehq.org Subject: Re: An idea for the appdb Sorry .. forgot to reply all. Automatic submission of test data could be a very handy tool. Scenario: User A tries to run an application, it crashes

Re: An idea for the appdb

2009-02-11 Thread alex
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:03:21 -0700 (GMT-07:00), James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net wrote: Automatic submission of test data could be a very handy tool. This would be great, but as previously discussed, who would maintain this information and verify it is correct and proper? Although

Re: An idea for the appdb

2009-02-11 Thread Matt 'Murph' Finnicum
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:33 PM, a...@centroidcafe.com wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:03:21 -0700 (GMT-07:00), James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net wrote: Automatic submission of test data could be a very handy tool. This would be great, but as previously discussed, who would maintain

Re: An idea for the appdb

2009-02-11 Thread Luke Benstead
2009/2/11 Matt 'Murph' Finnicum mattf...@gmail.com: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:33 PM, a...@centroidcafe.com wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:03:21 -0700 (GMT-07:00), James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net wrote: Automatic submission of test data could be a very handy tool. This would be

Re: An idea for the appdb

2009-02-11 Thread John Klehm
Please correct me if I'm wrong but before we go about collecting all this information wouldn't it be better to have some compatibility framework in Wine that could actually make use of it? Otherwise we're collecting a lot of information that is of little immediate use. In other words we'd have

Re: An idea for the appdb

2009-02-11 Thread Ben Klein
2009/2/12 Gert van den Berg wine-de...@mohag.net: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Luke Benstead kaz...@gmail.com wrote: I can also see what you mean about spyware, but other apps retrieve stuff from the web if there is a connection (CDDB, and album covers are two examples). Wine

Re: An idea for the appdb

2009-02-11 Thread Sparr
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Ben Klein shackl...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/12 Gert van den Berg wine-de...@mohag.net: It should rather be opt-in. Such as Wine has detected that it is the first time you run this application, do you want to check AppDb for more information (Yes/No/Ask

Re: An idea for the appdb

2009-02-11 Thread Ben Klein
2009/2/12 Sparr spa...@gmail.com: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Ben Klein shackl...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/12 Gert van den Berg wine-de...@mohag.net: It should rather be opt-in. Such as Wine has detected that it is the first time you run this application, do you want to check AppDb for