Re: idea: display drivers

2010-02-07 Thread Gert van den Berg
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 22:47, David Gerard wrote: > No idea, sorry. Xsun is on extended (life-)support with Sun moving to > Xorg (and Alan Coopersmith from Sun being one of the main Xorg > developers). Xming is Xorg compiled for mingw Xming: An ancient version of Xorg (at least for the free versi

Re: idea: display drivers

2010-02-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 February 2010 20:23, Gert van den Berg wrote: > On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 21:40, David Gerard wrote: >> As I understand it, current Xorg does OpenGL in software on any video >> chipset it supports ... eeerrryyy ssslllooowwwlllyyy, but it does >> it. > But what about other X servers, such

Re: idea: display drivers

2010-02-07 Thread Gert van den Berg
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 21:40, David Gerard wrote: > On 7 February 2010 15:40, Reece Dunn wrote: > >>  1/  Does this mean that OpenGL is required for all GDI calls, not >> just D3D? If so, it will exclude people who don't have OpenGL support >> (e.g. are using the vesa, nv, or nouveau drivers). >

Re: idea: display drivers

2010-02-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 February 2010 15:40, Reece Dunn wrote: >  1/  Does this mean that OpenGL is required for all GDI calls, not > just D3D? If so, it will exclude people who don't have OpenGL support > (e.g. are using the vesa, nv, or nouveau drivers). As I understand it, current Xorg does OpenGL in software

Re: idea: display drivers

2010-02-07 Thread James McKenzie
Roderick Colenbrander wrote: > On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 6:41 PM, James McKenzie > wrote: > >> Correct. But why keep the old stuff around? It might be confusing to >> the Wine beginner. >> >> > > The new style driver would only work on modern hardware like windows7 does. > > That makes s

Re: idea: display drivers

2010-02-07 Thread James McKenzie
Roderick Colenbrander wrote: >> Emmanuel's code is available from Sourceforge. It is a good starting >> point for this. If you want, send me what you have so far for testing >> purposes. It would be great to have a native MacOSX windowing system. >> >> James McKenzie >> >> > > The design of

Re: idea: display drivers

2010-02-07 Thread Roderick Colenbrander
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Reece Dunn wrote: > On 7 February 2010 15:02, Roderick Colenbrander > wrote: >>> Emmanuel's code is available from Sourceforge.  It is a good starting >>> point for this.  If you want, send me what you have so far for testing >>> purposes.  It would be great to ha

Re: idea: display drivers

2010-02-07 Thread Reece Dunn
On 7 February 2010 15:02, Roderick Colenbrander wrote: >> Emmanuel's code is available from Sourceforge.  It is a good starting >> point for this.  If you want, send me what you have so far for testing >> purposes.  It would be great to have a native MacOSX windowing system. >> >> James McKenzie >

Re: idea: display drivers

2010-02-07 Thread Roderick Colenbrander
> Emmanuel's code is available from Sourceforge.  It is a good starting > point for this.  If you want, send me what you have so far for testing > purposes.  It would be great to have a native MacOSX windowing system. > > James McKenzie > The design of the old quartz driver is not correct. I remem

Re: idea: display drivers

2010-02-07 Thread James McKenzie
Stefan Dösinger wrote: >> The problem is that there can't be any Objective-C code in Wine. At all. >> Or C++. Or Fortran. Or Pascal. Or Ada. Or Java. Or C# or VB. Or any >> language other than pure, procedural C. >> > Alexandre has said that you can put objective C code into wine, but only if

Re: idea: display drivers

2010-02-07 Thread James McKenzie
Charles Davis wrote: > C.W. Betts wrote: > >> Is is just because of the Objective-C code? Would it be safe to make C >> functions that would call Objective-C? Such as: >> cheader.h: >> typedef struct struct1 struct1; >> cfuncCreate(struct1 *s); >> cfunc1(); >> cfunc2(); >> cfuncDestroy (struct

Re: idea: display drivers

2010-02-07 Thread James McKenzie
C.W. Betts wrote: > Is is just because of the Objective-C code? Would it be safe to make C > functions that would call Objective-C? Such as: > cheader.h: > typedef struct struct1 struct1; > cfuncCreate(struct1 *s); > cfunc1(); > cfunc2(); > cfuncDestroy (struct1 *s); > > cfile.m: > @interface WHQ

Re: idea: display drivers

2010-02-07 Thread Stefan Dösinger
> The problem is that there can't be any Objective-C code in Wine. At all. > Or C++. Or Fortran. Or Pascal. Or Ada. Or Java. Or C# or VB. Or any > language other than pure, procedural C. Alexandre has said that you can put objective C code into wine, but only if this code is properly abstracted fr

Re: idea: display drivers

2010-02-06 Thread Charles Davis
C.W. Betts wrote: > Is is just because of the Objective-C code? Would it be safe to make C > functions that would call Objective-C? Such as: > cheader.h: > typedef struct struct1 struct1; > cfuncCreate(struct1 *s); > cfunc1(); > cfunc2(); > cfuncDestroy (struct1 *s); > > cfile.m: > @interface WH

Re: idea: display drivers

2010-02-06 Thread C.W. Betts
Is is just because of the Objective-C code? Would it be safe to make C functions that would call Objective-C? Such as: cheader.h: typedef struct struct1 struct1; cfuncCreate(struct1 *s); cfunc1(); cfunc2(); cfuncDestroy (struct1 *s); cfile.m: @interface WHQFunc { } -(id)init; -(void)dealloc; @e

Re: idea: display drivers

2010-02-06 Thread Ben Klein
On 7 February 2010 01:45, James McKenzie wrote: > C.W. Betts wrote: >> An idea that popped into my head when I was thinking about a Quartz (OS X) >> driver that perhaps there could be separate drivers for Quartz (OS X) and >> X11.  Such drivers would include OpenGL and DirectX "Drivers". >> >> >

Re: idea: display drivers

2010-02-06 Thread James McKenzie
C.W. Betts wrote: > An idea that popped into my head when I was thinking about a Quartz (OS X) > driver that perhaps there could be separate drivers for Quartz (OS X) and > X11. Such drivers would include OpenGL and DirectX "Drivers". > > > This has been shot down time and time again by Alexa

idea: display drivers

2010-02-06 Thread C.W. Betts
An idea that popped into my head when I was thinking about a Quartz (OS X) driver that perhaps there could be separate drivers for Quartz (OS X) and X11. Such drivers would include OpenGL and DirectX "Drivers".

Display drivers

2010-02-05 Thread C . W . Betts
An idea that popped into my head when I was thinking about a Quartz (OS X) driver that perhaps there could be separate drivers for Quartz (OS X) and X11. Such drivers would include OpenGL and DirectX "Drivers".