Re: Patchwork (was Re: Governance revisited)

2006-09-29 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Ge van Geldorp wrote: Actually, that's not how I intended things to work. The automatic removal from the queue would only happen if the patch had a RFC status, i.e. if action is expected from the patch submitter. If the patch is unopposed and just waiting in the queue, it should stay there. It's

Re: Patchwork (was Re: Governance revisited)

2006-09-29 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Mike McCormack wrote: Ge van Geldorp wrote: My objective is to improve Wine by maximizing the number of patches of acceptable quality. In my opinion, this can be done by: 1) assuring no patches get lost 2) assuring an author gets informed about why his patch is not acceptable in its current

Re: Patchwork (was Re: Governance revisited)

2006-09-28 Thread Ge van Geldorp
From: Vitaliy Margolen [EMAIL PROTECTED] So in a sense you will require some one to respond for any incoming e-mail to wine-patches. And if no one does, Alexandre don't get to see the status? Not sure I understand what you mean. If no-one responds to the patch on wine-devel the patch

Re: Patchwork (was Re: Governance revisited)

2006-09-28 Thread Frans Kool
Ge van Geldorp ge at gse.nl writes: From: Vitaliy Margolen wine-devel at kievinfo.com So in a sense you will require some one to respond for any incoming e-mail to wine-patches. And if no one does, Alexandre don't get to see the status? Not sure I understand what you mean. If

Re: Patchwork (was Re: Governance revisited)

2006-09-28 Thread Troy Rollo
On Thursday 28 September 2006 05:49, Mike McCormack wrote: Seems like that is a system that doesn't scale well at all, as it requires Alexandre to specifically respond to each and every patch. He still has to take an action to review each patch now, and presumably some action to remove it

Re: Patchwork (was Re: Governance revisited)

2006-09-28 Thread Mike McCormack
Ge van Geldorp wrote: My objective is to improve Wine by maximizing the number of patches of acceptable quality. In my opinion, this can be done by: 1) assuring no patches get lost 2) assuring an author gets informed about why his patch is not acceptable in its current form so he can improve

RE: Patchwork (was Re: Governance revisited)

2006-09-28 Thread Ge van Geldorp
Hello Mike, From: Mike McCormack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] That sounds good, but it's not reasonable to put the responsibility on Alexandre, as he has enough work already. Unless you can read Alexandres mind, he's really the only one who can tell what he didn't like about a certain

RE: Patchwork (was Re: Governance revisited)

2006-09-28 Thread Ge van Geldorp
From: Jakob Eriksson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have been watching this thread with keen interest. Alexandre does not HAVE to respond to that patch, he can silently ignore it just like he can now. The only difference with Patchwork would be that after a certain time with no

Re: Patchwork (was Re: Governance revisited)

2006-09-27 Thread Ge van Geldorp
From: Alexandre Julliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you expect anything to happen, you'll need to make much more concrete suggestions, and provide examples to make us understand how what you are suggesting would work in practice Fair enough. Some disclaimers upfront: I'm basically thinking

Re: Patchwork (was Re: Governance revisited)

2006-09-27 Thread Mike McCormack
Ge van Geldorp wrote: It would make sure the author always receives some kind of feedback (either from the bot, other developers or yourself) and would make sure patches don't get lost (patches are automatically entered into the system and only leave the system when the author withdraws them

Re: Patchwork (was Re: Governance revisited)

2006-09-27 Thread James Hawkins
On 9/27/06, Mike McCormack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Responding to each and every patch seems like it would be a waste of Alexandre's time. We should encourage more people to participate in the patch review process, so that we have more reviewers and a more scalable process. +1 -- James

RE: Patchwork (was Re: Governance revisited)

2006-09-27 Thread Ge van Geldorp
From: Mike McCormack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Seems like that is a system that doesn't scale well at all, as it requires Alexandre to specifically respond to each and every patch. No, it doesn't require that. It requires *someone* to respond, that could be a fellow developer on

Re: Patchwork (was Re: Governance revisited)

2006-09-27 Thread Troy Rollo
On Thursday 28 September 2006 05:49, Mike McCormack wrote: Seems like that is a system that doesn't scale well at all, as it requires Alexandre to specifically respond to each and every patch. He still has to take an action to review each patch now, and presumably some action to remove it

Re: Patchwork (was Re: Governance revisited)

2006-09-27 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Ge van Geldorp wrote: From: Mike McCormack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Seems like that is a system that doesn't scale well at all, as it requires Alexandre to specifically respond to each and every patch. No, it doesn't require that. It requires *someone* to respond, that could be a

Patchwork (was Re: Governance revisited)

2006-09-26 Thread Troy Rollo
As I speculated, the reason the PPC64 Patchwork example was so out of date was that the PPC64 list had been folded into the vanilla PPC list, however the big problem right now is that Patchwork is extra work for maintainers, so right now they don't want to use it. It ought to go without saying

Re: Patchwork (was Re: Governance revisited)

2006-09-26 Thread Jeremy White
Troy Rollo wrote: As I speculated, the reason the PPC64 Patchwork example was so out of date was that the PPC64 list had been folded into the vanilla PPC list, however the big problem right now is that Patchwork is extra work for maintainers, so right now they don't want to use it. Ouch.

Re: Patchwork (was Re: Governance revisited)

2006-09-26 Thread Jeremy White
I didn't respond to Alexandre's point earlier, but wanted to now: To the private email issues, Alexandre replied: There are a fair number of such cases, yes. Not so much the bad patches but the corrupted/mangled/doesn't apply patches; I don't want to fill wine-devel with this patch is

Re: Patchwork (was Re: Governance revisited)

2006-09-26 Thread Mike McCormack
Accepted patches will appear in the wine-cvs mailing list. Patches with obvious problems may receive a response on wine-devel. Some patches may not receive any response. In this case, your patch maybe considered 'Not Obviously Correct', and you can: * check the patch over yourself, and

Re: Patchwork (was Re: Governance revisited)

2006-09-26 Thread Troy Rollo
On Tuesday 26 September 2006 22:55, Jeremy White wrote: 1. We can write a utility that lets us compare a winehq commit message to a wine-patches email and see if there is a 'match'. 100% isn't required, but some nice non zero number is. A key requirement is that