Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-22 Thread Dan Kegel
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Kai Blin wrote: >> >> Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html > > You can see that the userAgent string contains (Kubuntu)... Oh, right, thanks. I've added a lower-case ubuntu to the list, can you try again? (The search should be case- insensitive, but I h

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-22 Thread Kai Blin
On Sunday 22 February 2009 15:51:31 Dan Kegel wrote: > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Kai Blin wrote: > >> Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html > > > > Konqueror 3.5 on an unknown distribution Linux an unknown CPU! > > userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.5; Linux) KHTML/3.5.10

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-22 Thread Dan Kegel
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Kai Blin wrote: >> Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html > > Konqueror 3.5 on an unknown distribution Linux an unknown CPU! > userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.5; Linux) KHTML/3.5.10 (like > Gecko) (Kubuntu) Yeah, that's https://bugs.launchpad.

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-22 Thread Kai Blin
> Next idea: why don't we detect the user's distro via javascript, and > put a targeted link to the 'right' package above the table? > > Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html > and let me know if it detects your distro properly, > I'll fix it up as needed. > > I'm kind of excited about this

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Scott Ritchie
Rosanne DiMesio wrote: > On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:24:09 -0800 > Dan Kegel wrote: > >> Can we add in a line at the top saying >> "Stable version 1.0.1 of Wine can usually be installed >> just like any other Linux application using your >> package manager (e.g. in Ubuntu, do Applications / Add/Remo

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Dan Kegel
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Remco wrote: > Filed a bug with "epiphany-browser": > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/epiphany-browser/+bug/332253 Thanks. I filed one for Konqueror, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/332340 -Dan

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:02:16PM +0100, Rolf Kalbermatter wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Dan Kegel wrote: > > Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html and let me know if it > > detects your distro properly, I'll fix it up as needed.You're running > > Firefox 3 on an unknown dis

RE: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Rolf Kalbermatter
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Dan Kegel wrote: > Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html and let me know if it > detects your distro properly, I'll fix it up as needed.You're running Firefox 3 on an unknown distribution Windows an unknown CPU! Firefox 3.0.6 on Windows XP SP3 userAgent

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Ben Klein
2009/2/21 Dan Kegel : > Can we add in a line at the top saying > "Stable version 1.0.1 of Wine can usually be installed > just like any other Linux application using your > package manager (e.g. in Ubuntu, do Applications / Add/Remove, > select Wine, and click Apply Changes). I know some versio

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Erich Hoover
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Remco wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Remco wrote: > > Firefox 3 on an unknown distribution Linux! > > > > userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en; rv:1.9.0.6) > > Gecko/20080528 Epiphany/2.22 Firefox/3.0 > > > > I don't think you're gonna be ab

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Remco
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Remco wrote: > Firefox 3 on an unknown distribution Linux! > > userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en; rv:1.9.0.6) > Gecko/20080528 Epiphany/2.22 Firefox/3.0 > > I don't think you're gonna be able to get the distribution name out of > that... a problem wit

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Dan Kegel
>> Firefox 3 on an unknown distribution Linux! >> >> userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en; rv:1.9.0.6) >> Gecko/20080528 Epiphany/2.22 Firefox/3.0 >> >> I don't think you're gonna be able to get the distribution name out of >> that... a problem with Epiphany I guess. Right, same with Ko

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Remco
And now also to the list: On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Remco wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Dan Kegel wrote: >> >> Please try again, and paste the entire output page, I've added more info. >> >> Thanks! >> > > Firefox 3 on an unknown distribution Linux! > > userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Erich Hoover
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Remco wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Dan Kegel wrote: > > Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html > > and let me know if it detects your distro properly, > > I'll fix it up as needed. > > It's probably a more useful test if you also print the repo

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Remco
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Dan Kegel wrote: > Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html > and let me know if it detects your distro properly, > I'll fix it up as needed. It's probably a more useful test if you also print the reported user agent string. (By the way, Dan, could you somehow

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Remco
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Dan Kegel wrote: > Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html > and let me know if it detects your distro properly, > I'll fix it up as needed. You're running Firefox 3 on an unknown distribution Linux! Actually: Epiphany 2.24.1 on Ubuntu 8.10 x86-64

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Dan Kegel
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Erich Hoover wrote: > You could use the HTTP_USER_AGENT environment variable to do a first-order > attempt. That way for people with Javascript disabled there's at least a > chance you'll detect their distribution. Yeah, we could probably do it all in php instea

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Rosanne DiMesio
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:40:28 -0800 Dan Kegel wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Jeremy White wrote: > > I can see that it consumes vertical white space, and I > > can get over myself. I remove my objection :-/. > > Thanks! > > Next idea: why don't we detect the user's distro via javasc

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Vít Hrachový
Hi Dan, Firefox 3.1b2 on OpenSolaris 2008.11 returns: 'unknown distribution of an unknown OS'. Cheers Hark Dan Kegel wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Jeremy White wrote: >> I can see that it consumes vertical white space, and I >> can get over myself. I remove my objection :-/. > > Th

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread David Gerard
2009/2/20 Dan Kegel : > Next idea: why don't we detect the user's distro via javascript, and > put a targeted link to the 'right' package above the table? > Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html > and let me know if it detects your distro properly, > I'll fix it up as needed. You're runni

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Erich Hoover
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Dan Kegel wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Juan Lang wrote: > >> Next idea: why don't we detect the user's distro via javascript, and > >> put a targeted link to the 'right' package above the table? > > > > Can we also have a non-Javascript page, pleas

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Daniel Verkamp
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Dan Kegel wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Daniel Verkamp wrote: >>> Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html >>> and let me know if it detects your distro properly, >> >> On Gentoo with www-client/mozilla-firefox (not mozilla-firefox-bin) >> the pa

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Matt 'Murph' Finnicum
For me, it got Gentoo just fine. using: www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.1_beta2-r1 "You're using Firefox 3.1 on Gentoo Linux!" --Murph On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Daniel Verkamp wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Dan Kegel wrote: > [...] >> Next idea: why don't we detect the user's

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Dan Kegel
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Juan Lang wrote: >> Next idea: why don't we detect the user's distro via javascript, and >> put a targeted link to the 'right' package above the table? > > Can we also have a non-Javascript page, please? People with > accessibility issues, and crufty old curmudge

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Dan Kegel
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Daniel Verkamp wrote: >> Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html >> and let me know if it detects your distro properly, > > On Gentoo with www-client/mozilla-firefox (not mozilla-firefox-bin) > the page just detects "unknown distribution Linux". Try it now..

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Juan Lang
> Next idea: why don't we detect the user's distro via javascript, and > put a targeted link to the 'right' package above the table? Can we also have a non-Javascript page, please? People with accessibility issues, and crufty old curmudgeons like me who disable Javascript by default, would apprec

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread IneedAname
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:40:28 -0800 Dan Kegel wrote: > Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html > and let me know if it detects your distro properly, > I'll fix it up as needed. It does not my detect distro version. Can that be done?

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Daniel Verkamp
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Dan Kegel wrote: [...] > Next idea: why don't we detect the user's distro via javascript, and > put a targeted link to the 'right' package above the table? > > Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html > and let me know if it detects your distro properly, > I'l

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Dan Kegel
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Jeremy White wrote: > I can see that it consumes vertical white space, and I > can get over myself. I remove my objection :-/. Thanks! Next idea: why don't we detect the user's distro via javascript, and put a targeted link to the 'right' package above the table

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:47:16AM -0600, Rosanne DiMesio wrote: > On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:24:09 -0800 > Dan Kegel wrote: > > > > > Can we add in a line at the top saying > > "Stable version 1.0.1 of Wine can usually be installed > > just like any other Linux application using your > > package

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Jeremy White
> No argument there, but the thing you want prominently placed is the > download link, not the thankyou, right? Oh, sorry; I didn't understand. I was trying to be honorable on this point by clearly revealing why that prominent placement was given to us; a truth in advertising sort of thing. I ca

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Dan Kegel
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Jeremy White wrote: >>> I think we should also move the text >>> "This endorsement is the primary recognition that CodeWeavers has >>> requested in exchange for hosting the Wine web site." >>> to the bottom of the page, and change it to read >>> "Thanks to CodeWeav

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Rosanne DiMesio
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:24:09 -0800 Dan Kegel wrote: > > Can we add in a line at the top saying > "Stable version 1.0.1 of Wine can usually be installed > just like any other Linux application using your > package manager (e.g. in Ubuntu, do Applications / Add/Remove, > select Wine, and click

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Jeremy White
>> I think we should also move the text >> "This endorsement is the primary recognition that CodeWeavers has >> requested in exchange for hosting the Wine web site." >> to the bottom of the page, and change it to read >> "Thanks to CodeWeavers for hosting WineHQ.org". > > +1 To be very honest, th

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Austin English
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:37 AM, James Mckenzie wrote: > Austin English wrote: >>Sent: Feb 20, 2009 10:32 AM >>To: Dan Kegel >>Cc: "wine-devel@winehq.org" >>Subject: Re: Wine download page usability problem >> >>On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:24 A

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread James Mckenzie
Austin English wrote: >Sent: Feb 20, 2009 10:32 AM >To: Dan Kegel >Cc: "wine-devel@winehq.org" >Subject: Re: Wine download page usability problem > >On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Dan Kegel wrote: >> >> Can we add in a line at the top saying >>

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Austin English
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Dan Kegel wrote: > I got email from a friend who complained how > hard it was to install wine. Turns out he > assumed he had to go to winehq.org and > follow the download instructions there, > when all he needed to do was do > Applications / Add/Remove and pick W