Re: Wine Weekly News

2007-12-11 Thread Francois Gouget
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Jonathan Ernst wrote: [...] About the new AppDB Application Status Changes, I see that you have a change column. I'm not convinced this column is of any use: it only repeats what we see in the other two columns but in a less obvious way. The total / global trend however

Re: Wine Weekly News

2007-12-10 Thread Jonathan Ernst
Hello, First, thank you for your work on the WWN ! About the new AppDB Application Status Changes, I see that you have a change column. What do you think about adding the sum of this column somewhere so we can see how/if Wine is improving between releases regarding application compatibility (of

Re: Wine Weekly News

2007-12-10 Thread Zachary Goldberg
I thought about it, but wasn't sure of the usefulness of such a number. If consensus is that it would be worth having, i'll add it for WWN 335. On Dec 10, 2007 3:57 PM, Jonathan Ernst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, First, thank you for your work on the WWN ! About the new AppDB Application

Re: Wine Weekly News

2007-12-10 Thread Zac Brown
Zachary Goldberg wrote: I thought about it, but wasn't sure of the usefulness of such a number. If consensus is that it would be worth having, i'll add it for WWN 335. On Dec 10, 2007 3:57 PM, Jonathan Ernst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, First, thank you for your work on the WWN !

Re: Wine Weekly News

2007-12-06 Thread Tomas Zijdemans
All good points (from a fellow Norwegian :) On the other hand, appDB entries are (and probably always will be) user generated content, and users will always have different opinions (and environment setup). IMHO users won't sue wine if the abbDB status differs from their experience with an

Re: Wine Weekly News

2007-12-05 Thread Alexander Nicolaysen Sørnes
On Wednesday 05 December 2007 16:08:27 Zachary Goldberg wrote: Hmmm interesting idea. I don't actually know just yet who the maintainer of the AppDB is, but he/she may respond in this thread (I'll attempt to find out their email anyway) as to whether or not its possible to generate a weekly

Re: Wine Weekly News

2007-12-05 Thread Brian Vincent
On Dec 5, 2007 8:20 AM, Alexander Nicolaysen Sørnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Their e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] They'll have to decide how to track the changes, but in any case the code should be in soon. What about downgrades? Regressions happen. It'd be terrible one week to promise

Re: Wine Weekly News

2007-12-05 Thread Zachary Goldberg
Brian, Yep -- i'll be tracking downgrades too. I'm actually writing the code myself, you'll likely see the results in next weeks issue --Zach On Dec 5, 2007 3:30 PM, Brian Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 5, 2007 8:20 AM, Alexander Nicolaysen Sørnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Their

Re: Wine Weekly News

2007-12-05 Thread Ben Hodgetts (Enverex)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Possibly, but on the other hand it could just as easily become Garbage in the next release of Wine ;) (sorry, I already sent this once at the start of the day but emailed it directly to the previous person rather than back to the list) Ben H. Tomas

Re: Wine Weekly News

2007-12-05 Thread Zachary Goldberg
I've finished coding a script which runs the necessary query to generate data (I download a database backup and run the queries on my local machine.). As a sampling (if anybody feels like tripple checking that the data is correct) of Upgrades (and some downgrades) from 11-27-2007 to 12-04-2007:

Re: Wine Weekly News

2007-12-05 Thread Zachary Goldberg
Hmmm interesting idea. I don't actually know just yet who the maintainer of the AppDB is, but he/she may respond in this thread (I'll attempt to find out their email anyway) as to whether or not its possible to generate a weekly summary of applications which have been upgraded through the week?

Re: Wine Weekly News

2007-12-05 Thread Alexander Nicolaysen Sørnes
The problem of using test results as background for this is that they are very dependent on the experience of each user. For instance some might be unable to run a game because they have execshield or other stuff that mess up Wine, or simply because they are not following the how-to

Re: Wine Weekly News

2007-12-05 Thread Tomas Zijdemans
This is great :) Would it be a good idea to include major news from the appDB? Ex: Photoshop cs2 has now reached Gold status I think this would be very inspiring to users. Tomas Triton wrote: On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 18:23:10 -0500 Zachary Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kai, It was my

Re: Wine Weekly News

2007-12-05 Thread Alexander Nicolaysen Sørnes
On Thursday 06 December 2007 00:44:03 Zachary Goldberg wrote: Here are the updated results for when we only look at updates from App Maintainers. It also just so happens that that age of empires case you mentioned is in fact by a maintainer. Please respond and leave your opinion as to which

Re: Wine Weekly News

2007-12-05 Thread Zachary Goldberg
Here are the updated results for when we only look at updates from App Maintainers. It also just so happens that that age of empires case you mentioned is in fact by a maintainer. Please respond and leave your opinion as to which is more worthwhile in the WWN. Perhaps i'll put both in different

Re: Wine Weekly News

2007-12-05 Thread Zachary Goldberg
Do you feel apps get updated enough that there are enough instances of an app being reviewed more than once per release to change these results? On Dec 5, 2007 6:52 PM, Alexander Nicolaysen Sørnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 06 December 2007 00:44:03 Zachary Goldberg wrote: Here are

Re: Wine Weekly News

2007-12-05 Thread Chris Morgan
i'd argue that this means we need to be smarter about how we process the test results. We need both a confidence and a rating and some way to reflect this in the results. Your other point about configuration, if users have problems with configuration then while it may be their fault its not

Re: Wine Weekly News

2007-12-04 Thread Zachary Goldberg
Kai, It was my pleasure :). Keep the interesting wine discussion/news coming and I'll keep writing WWNs. I'll also make note to highlight in particular GSoC developments as they happen. --Zach On Dec 4, 2007 6:14 PM, Kai Blin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Zach, thanks for getting a new WWN

Re: Wine Weekly News

2007-12-04 Thread Triton
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 18:23:10 -0500 Zachary Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kai, It was my pleasure :). Keep the interesting wine discussion/news coming and I'll keep writing WWNs. I'll also make note to highlight in particular GSoC developments as they happen. --Zach Hi everyone,