Re: WineHQ css; binfmt Mono wine

2005-05-22 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Dimi Paun wrote: This is just wasted effort. They will probably get close, but will never be good enough. They just fail to understand that. Nevertheless, a lot of effort will be wasted, and we as a community will be years behind providing a good solution. Sigh. Not to mention that we (the

Re: WineHQ css; binfmt Mono wine

2005-05-21 Thread Dimi Paun
On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 00:43 +0900, Mike McCormack wrote: IMO, the right way to make it work is to enable closer integration of the two projects. We tried Mono using Wine, and that failed, but Wine has so far not tried using Mono. That's a big failure on our part (as well as theirs). Doing

Re: WineHQ css; binfmt Mono wine

2005-05-21 Thread Mike Hearn
On Sat, 21 May 2005 07:07:53 -0400, Dimi Paun wrote: On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 00:43 +0900, Mike McCormack wrote: IMO, the right way to make it work is to enable closer integration of the two projects. We tried Mono using Wine, and that failed, but Wine has so far not tried using Mono.

Re: WineHQ css; binfmt Mono wine

2005-05-21 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Dimi Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What people really want is to able to simply do: $CC -o myapp -lwine or even better: ... void *wine = dlopen(wine); if (wine) { ... } This is what we need to provide. You see, right now we offer the most functionally reach

Re: WineHQ css; binfmt Mono wine

2005-05-21 Thread Dimi Paun
On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 13:22 +0200, Alexandre Julliard wrote: IMO the no native DLLs bit kills 99% of the potential uses of the feature. The reason people want to dlopen libwine is so that they can do everything in Unix except occasionally load some Windows driver or DLL for which they need

Re: WineHQ css; binfmt Mono wine

2005-05-21 Thread Dimi Paun
On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 12:18 +0100, Mike Hearn wrote: The simplest solution is just to pull Debians helper thingy upstream and recommend packagers depend on that in their packages, IMHO. Wine may need to use Mono at some point but it's been years and not many apps have a heavy .NET dependency

WineHQ css; binfmt Mono wine

2005-05-20 Thread Brian Vincent
Something broke on WineHQ. For some reason br / tags aren't getting parsed right - see this week's WWN for an example. It's displaying BR. I haven't looked into it at all, but I figured someone (Dimi?) might remember messing with this stuff recently. Also, anyone happen to know if Wine can be

Re: WineHQ css; binfmt Mono wine

2005-05-20 Thread Ove Kaaven
fre, 20,.05.2005 kl. 00.35 -0600, skrev Brian Vincent: Also, anyone happen to know if Wine can be used in conjunction with binfmt alongside Mono? Are there any unique C# identifiers in the first 128 bits of a .Net executable that could identify it? It appears the Mono guys recommend looking

Re: WineHQ css; binfmt Mono wine

2005-05-20 Thread Mike Hearn
On Fri, 20 May 2005 08:32:28 -0400, Ove Kaaven wrote: A technique once proposed for the Debian packages is to make binfmt start a wrapper program, which further examines the file, then launches Wine or Mono as appropriate. If implemented, this would be handled by the distro, not by Wine