Re: [Fwd: WineTools is in need of some major house cleaning!]

2006-01-24 Thread Tony Lambregts
Joachim von Thadden wrote: I understand the goal of WineTools and I can see both sides of this issue but for for some of us it really is frustrating because it makes our jobs harder. The purpose of WineTools is not to "undermine" and also it is, was and will never meant to be a "pure replace

Re: [Fwd: WineTools is in need of some major house cleaning!]

2006-01-24 Thread Joachim von Thadden
Am Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 09:16:21AM -0800 schrieb Juan Lang: > I support winetools, though I don't use it myself. Not only as a matter > of principle (this is open source we're talking about, and one of the > beauties is we don't get to constrain how it's used.) Also because it's > in line with th

Re: [Fwd: WineTools is in need of some major house cleaning!]

2006-01-24 Thread Joachim von Thadden
nt that environment you have setup with > winetools is less flexible and more restrictive then Wine itself. I am sure it is. So it might only work for the few apps it is meant for. And that is the only purpose. > >> Betreff: WineTools is in need of some major house cleaning! > >

Re: [Fwd: WineTools is in need of some major house cleaning!]

2006-01-24 Thread Chris Morgan
I'm not sure we need a counterpoint to Vitaliy. The fact that it took over a month to hear back from the winetools guys seems like reason enough to pull it from the downloads page. Winetools might be a useful tool but we can't have wine's users depending on them if we developers can't get ahold o

Re: [Fwd: WineTools is in need of some major house cleaning!]

2006-01-24 Thread Juan Lang
Hm. Felt I needed to offer a counterpoint to Vitaliy's rather enthusiastic response. I support winetools, though I don't use it myself. Not only as a matter of principle (this is open source we're talking about, and one of the beauties is we don't get to constrain how it's used.) Also because i

Re: [Fwd: WineTools is in need of some major house cleaning!]

2006-01-24 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
run games and games only. That just proves my point that environment you have setup with winetools is less flexible and more restrictive then Wine itself. >> Betreff: WineTools is in need of some major house cleaning! >> Datum: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 03:31:43 -0500 >> Von: Tom Wickline

Re: [Fwd: WineTools is in need of some major house cleaning!]

2006-01-24 Thread Joachim von Thadden
the list. And your are right that this is an undebuggable situation. The only way around that is to smoothly migrate WineTools to more and more builtin features as long as this does not make the programs uninstallable or unusable. > Betreff: WineTools is in need of some major house cleaning! >

Re: WineTools is in need of some major house cleaning!

2005-12-30 Thread Sven Paschukat
I'll contact Joachim to get a statement. But plz give us some days... Sven Marcus Meissner schrieb: Could some one from the WineTools project give us a update on our concerns here? I am not even sure Joachim von Thadden is subscribed here. Ciao, Marcus

Re: WineTools is in need of some major house cleaning!

2005-12-30 Thread Marcus Meissner
> Could some one from the WineTools project give us a update on our concerns > here? I am not even sure Joachim von Thadden is subscribed here. Ciao, Marcus

WineTools is in need of some major house cleaning!

2005-12-30 Thread Tom Wickline
Hello Everyone, Anyone who reads the posting on this list already knows that I stood up for the wineTools project and almost made a couple enemies... But me and Vitaliy came to a half way agreement on whether or not we should keep the link on our downloads page to WineTools I feel I need to a