Re: autorun perhaps dangerous (Was: Wine release 0.9.53)

2008-01-16 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Scott Ritchie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We might want to add an option for only executing these on wineboot. Hell, we might want to make this the default unless the user has a new Wine installation made with wineprefixcreate. As it is, this change might break things. Any change might break

Re: autorun perhaps dangerous (Was: Wine release 0.9.53)

2008-01-14 Thread L. Rahyen
On Monday January 14 2008 00:17:53 James McKenzie wrote: I have found that I CANNOT contribute code to this project. However, this does not stop me from contributing my USD .02. Regedit serves a single purpose, editing the registry. msconfig serves the purpose of editing the configuration

Re: autorun perhaps dangerous (Was: Wine release 0.9.53)

2008-01-13 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
Steven Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Winecfg is not really the place for it. Windows power users expect to have msconfigits a shame we can't lift the one from ReactOS because they have a working LGPL replacement. I don't see why winecfg can't have a page similar to what msconfig has.

Re: autorun perhaps dangerous (Was: Wine release 0.9.53)

2008-01-13 Thread Steven Edwards
On Jan 13, 2008 4:18 AM, Dmitry Timoshkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see why winecfg can't have a page similar to what msconfig has. It not hard to add it to winecfg, there is nothing magic in the reactos version. This is true. I am just saying most windows power uses expect msconfig to

Re: autorun perhaps dangerous (Was: Wine release 0.9.53)

2008-01-13 Thread Peter Bortas
On 1/11/08, Marcus Meissner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 05:36:04PM +0100, Alexandre Julliard wrote: This is release 0.9.53 of Wine, a free implementation of Windows on Unix. What's new in this release: - RunOnce and Run entries now executed on startup. This will

Re: autorun perhaps dangerous (Was: Wine release 0.9.53)

2008-01-13 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
Steven Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is true. I am just saying most windows power uses expect msconfig to be there these days. We could have a dummy msconfig thats just a wrapper and invokes winecfg on the correct page. Being as we don't follow the design windows power users expect by

Re: autorun perhaps dangerous (Was: Wine release 0.9.53)

2008-01-13 Thread Peter Bortas
On 1/13/08, Dmitry Timoshkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Bortas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a flag to turn off this behaviour. So far I've never had a setup where I'd want the Run/RunOnce entries to execute. For instance Microsoft Office finishes its setup process when being run from

Re: autorun perhaps dangerous (Was: Wine release 0.9.53)

2008-01-13 Thread L. Rahyen
On Sunday January 13 2008 12:52:22 Steven Edwards wrote: On Jan 13, 2008 6:24 AM, Dmitry Timoshkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My impression was that Wine follows the requests and demands of Linux (and other supported OSes) users, not the Windows' ones regardless of their powerfulness. Well

Re: autorun perhaps dangerous (Was: Wine release 0.9.53)

2008-01-13 Thread tony . wasserka
There are quite a few installers that use RunOnce to get around file locking, but I still haven't had to use one fortunately. As I said, as long as I can disable it. RunOnce wouldn't even have to be disabled, I'd be happy with a RunOnce wants to execute 'foo.exe blipp blopp', 'No, and clear

Re: autorun perhaps dangerous (Was: Wine release 0.9.53)

2008-01-13 Thread L. Rahyen
On Sunday January 13 2008 20:45:49 Steven Edwards wrote: My point in reply to Dmitry's comment was while I agree using winecfg for msconfig functionality is fine I was just using a reductio ad-absurdum to point out that if we are not going to make a wrapper program for msconfig for power

Re: autorun perhaps dangerous (Was: Wine release 0.9.53)

2008-01-13 Thread James McKenzie
L. Rahyen wrote: On Sunday January 13 2008 20:45:49 Steven Edwards wrote: Because we obviously don't care about whats convenient to people coming from a windows background using that logic. We shouldn't care about Windows power users != we shouldn't care about Linux users.

Re: autorun perhaps dangerous (Was: Wine release 0.9.53)

2008-01-12 Thread Scott Ritchie
Marcus Meissner wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 05:36:04PM +0100, Alexandre Julliard wrote: This is release 0.9.53 of Wine, a free implementation of Windows on Unix. What's new in this release: - RunOnce and Run entries now executed on startup. This will probably give some fallout ;) I

Re: autorun perhaps dangerous (Was: Wine release 0.9.53)

2008-01-12 Thread Marcel Partap
..also, a very good utility to handle the autorun stuff is autoruns.exe from the Sysinternals Suite. Actually, the whole suite is a very good testbed for wine as it contains low level monitoring tools like Diskmon.exe, Filemon.exe, Tcpview.exe, procexp.exe, portmon.exe, Winobj.exe.. many of

Re: autorun perhaps dangerous (Was: Wine release 0.9.53)

2008-01-12 Thread Brian Vincent
Until someone comes up with the addition to winecfg to edit the Run and RunOnce keys (and it really seems like that is what we need), we should probably detect if those keys have changed and pop up a dialog on the next wineboot that says: The Run or RunOnce registry keys have changed, probably

Re: autorun perhaps dangerous (Was: Wine release 0.9.53)

2008-01-12 Thread Steven Edwards
On Jan 12, 2008 2:15 PM, Brian Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Until someone comes up with the addition to winecfg to edit the Run and RunOnce keys (and it really seems like that is what we need), we should probably detect if those keys have changed and pop up a dialog on the next wineboot

Re: autorun perhaps dangerous (Was: Wine release 0.9.53)

2008-01-12 Thread Austin English
Why not? Was it reverse engineered? Or is there some other reason preventing its integration? - Austin On 1/12/08, Steven Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 12, 2008 2:15 PM, Brian Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Until someone comes up with the addition to winecfg to edit the Run and

Re: autorun perhaps dangerous (Was: Wine release 0.9.53)

2008-01-12 Thread Steven Edwards
On Jan 13, 2008 12:54 AM, Austin English [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not? Was it reverse engineered? Or is there some other reason preventing its integration? The general policy is to no longer accept code from ReactOS though the Wine taskmgr and registry editor were developed by ReactOS

autorun perhaps dangerous (Was: Wine release 0.9.53)

2008-01-11 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 05:36:04PM +0100, Alexandre Julliard wrote: This is release 0.9.53 of Wine, a free implementation of Windows on Unix. What's new in this release: - RunOnce and Run entries now executed on startup. This will probably give some fallout ;) I wanted to write earlier,

Re: autorun perhaps dangerous (Was: Wine release 0.9.53)

2008-01-11 Thread John Klehm
On Jan 11, 2008 10:48 AM, Marcus Meissner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We probably need some tool to edit Run and RunOnce entries now. maybe we need a tool like msconfig for managing services or a page on winecfg. Id say so, a one stop place for anything that has a chance to get executed on

Re: autorun perhaps dangerous (Was: Wine release 0.9.53)

2008-01-11 Thread Steven Edwards
On Jan 11, 2008 12:06 PM, Stefan Dösinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree it is a pain with make test though, and some way to easilly edit these keys would be helpful maybe we need a tool like msconfig for managing services or a page on winecfg. -- Steven Edwards There is one thing

Re: autorun perhaps dangerous (Was: Wine release 0.9.53)

2008-01-11 Thread Christian Gmeiner
2008/1/11, Marcus Meissner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 05:36:04PM +0100, Alexandre Julliard wrote: This is release 0.9.53 of Wine, a free implementation of Windows on Unix. What's new in this release: - RunOnce and Run entries now executed on startup. This will

Re: autorun perhaps dangerous (Was: Wine release 0.9.53)

2008-01-11 Thread Maarten Lankhorst
Marcus Meissner schreef: On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 05:36:04PM +0100, Alexandre Julliard wrote: This is release 0.9.53 of Wine, a free implementation of Windows on Unix. What's new in this release: - RunOnce and Run entries now executed on startup. This will probably give some

Re: autorun perhaps dangerous (Was: Wine release 0.9.53)

2008-01-11 Thread Vincent Povirk
I've found Mike Lin's Startup Control Panel (http://mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml) very useful for this on windows. It appears to work on Wine, though I don't seem to have any Run or RunOnce entries so can't be sure. On Jan 11, 2008 11:48 AM, Marcus Meissner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jan 11,