Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-07-13 Thread Austin English
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Roderick Colenbranderthunderbir...@gmail.com wrote: I would be willing to assist with any Mac issues as I would need a LGPL'ed version of Wine on OSX myself. I'm assisting bringing a university program to Linux/Mac using Wine and for that I need decent Mac

why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-07-06 Thread Joerg-Cyril.Hoehle
James McKenzie wrote: Something that I do have to point out is that freetype, a very important library for Wine is not shipped with XCode nor MacOSX. We have to include it. Huh? On my 10.5.7 Leopard system, Wine was able to find FreeType -- with LD_LIBRARY_PATH guidance. And I have nothing but

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-07-06 Thread James Mckenzie
James McKenzie wrote: Something that I do have to point out is that freetype, a very important library for Wine is not shipped with XCode nor MacOSX. We have to include it. Huh? On my 10.5.7 Leopard system, Wine was able to find FreeType -- with LD_LIBRARY_PATH guidance. And I have nothing but

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-07-06 Thread James McKenzie
joerg-cyril.hoe...@t-systems.com wrote: James McKenzie wrote: Something that I do have to point out is that freetype, a very important library for Wine is not shipped with XCode nor MacOSX. We have to include it. Huh? On my 10.5.7 Leopard system, Wine was able to find

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-07-06 Thread James McKenzie
joerg-cyril.hoe...@t-systems.com wrote: BTW, it would be nice if MacOS users could comment on a) my comment #4 to bug #17674 above or on b) my patch http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-patches/2009-July/075290.html It was not included in Wine-1.1.25 perhaps because AJ awaits confirmations

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-07-05 Thread James McKenzie
Mike Kronenberg wrote: On 26.06.2009, at 16:51, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: Emmanuel Maillard maha...@free.fr wrote: Darwine tools WineHelper and create_darwine_distrib script are not GPL but LGPL. Don't know for Mike Kronenberg patches or other stuffs, but we never change Wine licensing

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-30 Thread Maik Schulz
On 29 Jun 2009, at 14:10, joerg-cyril.hoe...@t-systems.com joerg-cyril.hoe...@t-systems.com wrote: If there were a plain vanilla wine built on OS X IMHO, Mac Users can expect from a binary distribution something Mac- like, e.g. some kind of GUI. Another OSS project I've worked on for

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-30 Thread Brian Vincent
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Mike Kronenberg mike.kronenb...@kronenberg.org wrote: OS X My main concern is to have usable builds. Ie, usable without the need of a terminal. People on OS X don't care about how stuff works, it just has to work. Vanilla build I totally agree that by

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-29 Thread Joerg-Cyril.Hoehle
If there were a plain vanilla wine built on OS X IMHO, Mac Users can expect from a binary distribution something Mac-like, e.g. some kind of GUI. Another OSS project I've worked on for over a decade used to embed NeXtStep specific GUI source code. There was no GUI for any other UNIX derivative.

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-26 Thread Maik Schulz
Hi Jörg, Juan, On 25 Jun 2009, at 22:05, Juan Lang wrote: Greetings Jörg, Yesterday I edited http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX/FAQs to be much less outdated than before and today I found that Dmitry Timoshkov removed all references to Mike Kronenberg's Wine binary distribution at

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-26 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
Maik Schulz ladenlokalvelb...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO, it would be sufficient to add a not supported by winehq.org disclaimer next to the mention. If there currently is no binary distribution that packs the vanilla wine tree then you're making it unnecessarily difficult to obtain a binary

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-26 Thread Roderick Colenbrander
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Austin Englishaustinengl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:56 AM, joerg-cyril.hoe...@t-systems.com wrote: Hi, Yesterday I edited http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX/FAQs to be much less outdated than before and today I found that Dmitry Timoshkov

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-26 Thread Emmanuel Maillard
Hi, Darwine tools WineHelper and create_darwine_distrib script are not GPL but LGPL. Don't know for Mike Kronenberg patches or other stuffs, but we never change Wine licensing in Darwine. Emmanuel Le 26 juin 09 à 05:19, Dmitry Timoshkov a écrit : joerg-cyril.hoe...@t-systems.com wrote:

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-26 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
Emmanuel Maillard maha...@free.fr wrote: Darwine tools WineHelper and create_darwine_distrib script are not GPL but LGPL. Don't know for Mike Kronenberg patches or other stuffs, but we never change Wine licensing in Darwine. Darwine site claims that it's under GPL. In any case different

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-26 Thread Steven Edwards
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Dmitry Timoshkovdmi...@codeweavers.com wrote: Darwine site claims that it's under GPL. In any case different name means a different product regardless of claims and intentions. Darwine is not Wine, plain and simple. I have a Mac that I've given Austin English

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-26 Thread Roderick Colenbrander
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Steven Edwardswinehac...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Dmitry Timoshkovdmi...@codeweavers.com wrote: Darwine site claims that it's under GPL. In any case different name means a different product regardless of claims and intentions. Darwine

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-26 Thread Steven Edwards
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Roderick Colenbranderthunderbir...@gmail.com wrote: If they ship hacks like the DIB engine then we won't accept bug reports for it as it a real big hack and shouldn't be linked to from our website. Tweaking themes or icons is fine. Actually we just need to

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-26 Thread Austin English
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Roderick Colenbranderthunderbir...@gmail.com wrote: If they ship hacks like the DIB engine then we won't accept bug reports for it as it a real big hack and shouldn't be linked to from our website. Tweaking themes or icons is fine. Actually we just need to

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-26 Thread David Gerard
2009/6/27 Austin English austinengl...@gmail.com: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Roderick Colenbranderthunderbir...@gmail.com wrote: If they ship hacks like the DIB engine then we won't accept bug reports for it as it a real big hack and shouldn't be linked to from our website. Tweaking

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-26 Thread Austin English
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:10 PM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/6/27 Austin English austinengl...@gmail.com: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Roderick Colenbranderthunderbir...@gmail.com wrote: If they ship hacks like the DIB engine then we won't accept bug reports for it as it a

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-26 Thread Ladenlokal Velbert
On 26 Jun 2009, at 10:29, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: Maik Schulz ladenlokalvelb...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO, it would be sufficient to add a not supported by winehq.org disclaimer next to the mention. If there currently is no binary distribution that packs the vanilla wine tree then you're

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-26 Thread Mike Kronenberg
On 26.06.2009, at 16:51, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: Emmanuel Maillard maha...@free.fr wrote: Darwine tools WineHelper and create_darwine_distrib script are not GPL but LGPL. Don't know for Mike Kronenberg patches or other stuffs, but we never change Wine licensing in Darwine. Darwine

why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-25 Thread Joerg-Cyril.Hoehle
Hi, Yesterday I edited http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX/FAQs to be much less outdated than before and today I found that Dmitry Timoshkov removed all references to Mike Kronenberg's Wine binary distribution at http://www.kronenberg.org/darwine/ This is unappropriate censorship to me.

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-25 Thread Juan Lang
Greetings Jörg, Yesterday I edited http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX/FAQs to be much less outdated than before and today I found that Dmitry Timoshkov removed all references to Mike Kronenberg's Wine binary distribution at http://www.kronenberg.org/darwine/ This is unappropriate censorship

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-25 Thread Austin English
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:56 AM, joerg-cyril.hoe...@t-systems.com wrote: Hi, Yesterday I edited http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX/FAQs to be much less outdated than before and today I found that Dmitry Timoshkov removed all references to Mike Kronenberg's Wine binary distribution at

Re: why is Kronenberg's Wine/Mac work blacklisted on winehq?

2009-06-25 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
joerg-cyril.hoe...@t-systems.com wrote: Yesterday I edited http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX/FAQs to be much less outdated than before and today I found that Dmitry Timoshkov removed all references to Mike Kronenberg's Wine binary distribution at http://www.kronenberg.org/darwine/ The explanation