Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, includes security measures.

2007-02-14 Thread Felix Nawothnig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I have never advocated for putting this in the registry, my suggestion has always been to store these settings in a file outside the .wine/drive_c jail area that is accessbile via wine's Win32 API. Wine is *not* a sandbox. Any .exe run can make use of native (Linux)

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, includes security measures.

2007-02-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2/12/07, James Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You advocated that wine aim for working exactly like Windows, no less > and no more, rather than deviating in user-configurable ways to > enhance the user's control over his own syste

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, includes security measures.

2007-02-12 Thread James Hawkins
On 2/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You advocated that wine aim for working exactly like Windows, no less and no more, rather than deviating in user-configurable ways to enhance the user's control over his own system. Right. That's the purpose of Wine. You'd know that i

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, includes security measures.

2007-02-12 Thread Bryan Haskins
If you've read the recent mailing list posts dating up to a few weeks back I think, there have been some cases. But like everyone said, the fact the malware would even run in itself is almost bittersweet. It is bug-for-bug though so you can't just do that. Possibly an 'msconfig' like thing would b

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, includes security measures.

2007-02-12 Thread John Smith
Part of my confusion what usage pattern is contracting malware on wine in the first place On 2/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/12/07, James Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 2/11/07, Misha Koshelev <[EMA

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, includes security measures.

2007-02-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2/12/07, James Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/11/07, Misha Koshelev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > > > Thanks for your suggestions. I just posted a new patch on wine-patches > > where I tried to incorporate t

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, includes security measures.

2007-02-12 Thread James Hawkins
On 2/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/11/07, Misha Koshelev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everybody, > > Thanks for your suggestions. I just posted a new patch on wine-patches > where I tried to incorporate these and now it does the following (in > addition to my previou

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, includes security measures.

2007-02-12 Thread Misha Koshelev
On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 23:49 -0600, John Smith wrote: > What prevents malicious programs from writing this registry key on > their own? > > On 2/11/07, Chris Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 11 February 2007 06:49:58 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > This soun

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, includes security measures.

2007-02-12 Thread Misha Koshelev
On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 23:49 -0600, John Smith wrote: > What prevents malicious programs from writing this registry key on > their own? > > On 2/11/07, Chris Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 11 February 2007 06:49:58 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > This soun

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, includes security measures.

2007-02-11 Thread John Smith
What prevents malicious programs from writing this registry key on their own? On 2/11/07, Chris Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sunday 11 February 2007 06:49:58 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This sounds almost perfect. What would stop the program from adding the registry key itself when

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, includes security measures.

2007-02-11 Thread Chris Robinson
On Sunday 11 February 2007 06:49:58 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This sounds almost perfect. What would stop the program from adding the registry key itself when placing the item in the startup folder, or wherever else? > I think the counterpoint raised by James > Hawkins would be adequately a

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, includes security measures.

2007-02-11 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
James Hawkins wrote: > On 2/11/07, Misha Koshelev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ok, thanks to everybody's responses on the wine-devel list. Here is my >> new version of this patch. It starts the items in the StartUp folder >> like Windows does (again, if anybody who knows about IShellFolder will >>

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, includes security measures.

2007-02-11 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Felix Nawothnig wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> This sounds almost perfect. I think the counterpoint raised by James >> Hawkins would be adequately addressed by adding a winecfg option as >> follows: > > Since we want winecfg to be gone in the long-term a registry key alone Who said that? Or

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, includes security measures.

2007-02-11 Thread Misha Koshelev
ng-term a registry key alone > would probably do fine. > > Felix From 7465a6f5e695a33670343cd959fca3fbf763899a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Misha Koshelev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:41:51 -0600 Subject: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, inclu

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, includes security measures.

2007-02-11 Thread Felix Nawothnig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This sounds almost perfect. I think the counterpoint raised by James Hawkins would be adequately addressed by adding a winecfg option as follows: Since we want winecfg to be gone in the long-term a registry key alone would probably do fine. Felix

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, includes security measures.

2007-02-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2/11/07, Misha Koshelev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi everybody, Thanks for your suggestions. I just posted a new patch on wine-patches where I tried to incorporate these and now it does the following (in addition to my previous patch which just started items in the StartUp folder): - When w

wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, includes security measures. [with the patch]

2007-02-11 Thread Misha Koshelev
Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:19:46 -0600 Subject: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, includes security measures. --- programs/wineboot/En.rc | 36 +++ programs/wineboot/Makefile.in |5 + programs/wineboot/wineboot.c | 201 + programs/w

RE: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, includes security measures.

2007-02-11 Thread Koshelev, Misha Vladislavo
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 2/11/2007 4:09 PM To: wine-devel@winehq.org Cc: Koshelev, Misha Vladislavo Subject: Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, includes security measures. On 2/11/07, Misha Koshelev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, thanks to everybody's re

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, includes security measures.

2007-02-11 Thread James Hawkins
On 2/11/07, Misha Koshelev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, thanks to everybody's responses on the wine-devel list. Here is my new version of this patch. It starts the items in the StartUp folder like Windows does (again, if anybody who knows about IShellFolder will look over my code that would be

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, includes security measures.

2007-02-11 Thread Joris Huizer
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wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot, includes security measures.

2007-02-11 Thread Misha Koshelev
Hi everybody, Thanks for your suggestions. I just posted a new patch on wine-patches where I tried to incorporate these and now it does the following (in addition to my previous patch which just started items in the StartUp folder): - When wineboot finds a file that it wants to start in the Start

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot.

2007-02-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2/10/07, Jacob Alberty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why not integrate this functionality into wineboot? That way if a user wants to completely deny the start-up folder they can just not add wineboot to the list of programs to be started on login, but if they want that functionality they can simp

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot.

2007-02-10 Thread Jacob Alberty
Why not integrate this functionality into wineboot? That way if a user wants to completely deny the start-up folder they can just not add wineboot to the list of programs to be started on login, but if they want that functionality they can simply add wineboot to the list of programs for start up w

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot.

2007-02-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2/10/07, David Lichterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Stefan Dösinger wrote: > Am Samstag 10 Februar 2007 05:20 schrieb Vitaliy Margolen: >> Misha Koshelev wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> As you all may have noticed, I have been making quite a few patches >>> within the last two weeks (or at least quite

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot.

2007-02-10 Thread David Lichterman
Stefan Dösinger wrote: Am Samstag 10 Februar 2007 05:20 schrieb Vitaliy Margolen: Misha Koshelev wrote: Hi, As you all may have noticed, I have been making quite a few patches within the last two weeks (or at least quite a few when compared to zero before then) because I had figured out that t

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot.

2007-02-10 Thread Stefan Dösinger
Am Samstag 10 Februar 2007 05:20 schrieb Vitaliy Margolen: > Misha Koshelev wrote: > > Hi, > > > > As you all may have noticed, I have been making quite a few patches > > within the last two weeks (or at least quite a few when compared to zero > > before then) because I had figured out that the Vec

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot.

2007-02-09 Thread John Smith
I thought wine's goal was "bug for bug" with windows, for good or for ill. On 2/9/07, Misha Koshelev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 21:20 -0700, Vitaliy Margolen wrote: > Misha Koshelev wrote: > > Hi, > > > > As you all may have noticed, I have been making quite a few patches

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot.

2007-02-09 Thread Misha Koshelev
On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 21:20 -0700, Vitaliy Margolen wrote: > Misha Koshelev wrote: > > Hi, > > > > As you all may have noticed, I have been making quite a few patches > > within the last two weeks (or at least quite a few when compared to zero > > before then) because I had figured out that the Ve

Re: wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot.

2007-02-09 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Misha Koshelev wrote: > Hi, > > As you all may have noticed, I have been making quite a few patches > within the last two weeks (or at least quite a few when compared to zero > before then) because I had figured out that the Vector NTI program that > is quite important in molecular biologThis patc

wineboot: Start items in StartUp folder on boot.

2007-02-09 Thread Misha Koshelev
s who have helped me so far (not to mention Alexandre Julliard for committing some of my patches). Misha From 446dbc9d3f961bff416e20b3504305763d145a78 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Misha Koshelev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 21:48:21 -0600 Subject: wineboot: Start items in StartU