I was one of the original supporters of developing channels, for better
local availabilty and terms. But times have changed. Its not that I don't
believe in sales channels, and loyalty between them, but loyalty needs to
work both directions. The purpose of sales channels is to increase volume
Hey!! Don't ever post a picture like this again without a warning!! I
think I'm going to be scarred for life!
2 guys in a hot tub alone with alcoholHum. That's a recipe
for disaster!
Looks like Mike isn't taking any chances drinking that Diet
Pepsi... :-P
-B-
hahahahah that is funny a little rub a dub
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Hey!! Don't ever post a picture like this again
That was not right!
DSJ
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You wouldnt believe how hard we are really working
Blair, it might be a good idea to allow for 48 v powering, since that is
802.3af POE standard. This way your device could be mounted away from
the Radio if one so chose to.
John
Blair Davis wrote:
Well, I guess there is no reasonably priced unit out there that will
do what I need and fit in
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Charles Wu wrote:
Electricity, Gas and Water are billed on a usage basis
Competitive market pressures aside, why should Internet be any
different?
Charles,
I don't often find myself in total disagreement with your
statements. I am on this point, however. Well, maybe not
Sounds good. Let me know when you get em made!
I like the idea of DC reboot devices over AC reboot devices anyway.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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For example, electricity, gas and water are items that are needed for basic
survival in the city. Granted, these services have not always been
available, but it is expected by all Americans that if they move somewhere,
they can get those services. Most people would not survive without these
I agree with George. Internet access is practically a necessity now,
especially for businesses. It wont be much longer and broadband will
be expected in order to do any kind of business. It may not be for
survival of your life, but certainly it will hurt you financially.
On 11/9/05, Charles Wu
Without electricity, you are blind or get heat stroke.
Without gas (propaine /natural), you freeze to death.
Without water, you dehydrate or get desease (no bathing).
All above things considered necessities, up there with food.
People could die without them.
TV, Phone, Internet on the other hand
Its true, Internet is an option.There are lots of people in the valley
here that never want it.
As to billing, paying per bit won't happen except for the Cellular
companys who have per minute everything in place as it is.
You'd think that since telephone service was flat rate some time ago,
you
Tom DeReggi wrote:
TV, Phone, Internet on the other hand are luxeries, things that people
rely on, but would survive if they did without. I've never seen someone
die from TV/Phone/Internet with drawal, although you never know it could
happen.
Tom. You should rethink what you just said
Very nice. $695?!?!
I might be able to justify it in a few locations, but not for wide
deployment.
We are looking for something we can deploy widely
Sub $100 price. Sub $70 if I can manage it
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Actually the internet is likes roads and education.
Without it, you are at a definite economic disadvantage.
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Yes, Blair
That does sound good, let us all know. I second the vote for DC reboot
devices.
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Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:49:43 -0500
From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot
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Sounds good.
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, RickG wrote:
I agree with George. Internet access is practically a necessity
now, especially for businesses. It wont be much longer and
broadband will be expected in order to do any kind of business. It
may not be for survival of your life, but certainly it will hurt
you
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, Tom DeReggi wrote:
MAN...where do you find the time to write so much. :-)
TV, Phone, Internet on the other hand are luxeries, things that
people rely on, but would survive if they did without. I've never
You stated very eloquently what I was trying to say. Thanks.
seen
DLinks POE kits take 5 volts, bump it up to 48 across the wire and drop
it back down to 5 volts at the other end. They list for about $25, so I
wouldn't think it should cost you too much to do.
John
Blair Davis wrote:
John, I have considered it. My only concern was that it might
increase
let me know where you get them for $25
John Thomas wrote:
DLinks POE kits take 5 volts, bump it up to 48 across the wire and
drop it back down to 5 volts at the other end. They list for about
$25, so I wouldn't think it should cost you too much to do.
John
Blair Davis wrote:
John, I have
OK, I exaggerated, compuplus has them for $36 each. My point was that he
only needs half the circuit. Now that I think of it, I guess that as
long as his device takes 5-12 volts in, you would only need a power
reducer to use 48 volts up. It's a lot easir to get 48 volts to go 300
feet than it
That's a good price. I paid nearly $50 each.
John Thomas wrote:
Actually, Online Micro has the DWL-P200 for $30 and it can do 5 or 12
volts out the back.
John
A. Huppenthal wrote:
let me know where you get them for $25
John Thomas wrote:
DLinks POE kits take 5 volts, bump it up to 48
Not quite. The D-Link POE kit has a 48VDC power block with a DC-DC step
down unit at the other end.
$25 doesn't sound too bad until you see the current hardware budget. :(
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John Thomas wrote:
DLinks POE kits take 5 volts, bump it up to 48 across the wire and
drop it back down to 5 volts
We get them from DH for less than $30 but I don't remember the exact
price off hand.
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A. Huppenthal wrote:
That's a good price. I paid nearly $50 each.
John Thomas wrote:
Actually, Online Micro has the DWL-P200 for $30 and it can do 5 or 12
volts out the back.
John
A. Huppenthal
Right, my point here is that you don't need to do anything to make your
system work with 48 volts. We just need to acquire a 48-12 volt convertor.
John
Blair Davis wrote:
Not quite. The D-Link POE kit has a 48VDC power block with a DC-DC
step down unit at the other end.
$25 doesn't sound
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