Re: [WISPA] Redundant Backhaul Links

2005-12-31 Thread Butch Evans
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005, Scott Reed wrote: In looking at that and some other things, I realize I really should plan for redundant links to the POPs from the NOC.? I want to plan to have it so that if the primary link goes down, another like will take over.? Probably looking at OSPF routing.? That

RE: [WISPA] Customer owned wireless coop

2005-12-31 Thread Larry Baumgart
What service providers need to be doing is looking at convergence, that is, voice, video and data. More often than not these people in trailers have a satellite dish delivering 300 channels, of which, they use about 5 channels, and pay $60 to $80 per month for this service. Plus, they pay an addi

[WISPA] Redundant Backhaul Links

2005-12-31 Thread Scott Reed
I need to redesign my IP addressing before I get too many more customers.  I messed up and have my APs, CPEs and customers all on the same subnets.  I really want to get them separated. In looking at that and some other things, I realize I really should plan for redundant links to the POPs fro

Re: [WISPA] Customer owned wireless coop

2005-12-31 Thread Pete Davis
Well, in the coop model, if there are only 10 subs, and the group is losing money (like I would be if I paid for a T1 out there, not so bad if I feed it wirelessly) its up to the members (coop owners) to get more subscribers. This model would give me limited upside, and VERY limited downside to

Re: [WISPA] Customer owned wireless coop

2005-12-31 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Around here most peoples option is DIAL-UP or me. I don't consider this area poor. A lot of farms. People living out in the rural area and drive to their factory jobs/whatever. I have a hard time getting them to pay $199 install and 34.95/month for 768k. I don't know how your gonna charge $50/m

Re: [WISPA] Customer owned wireless coop

2005-12-31 Thread Bob Knight
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 We are doing something similar. La Cañada Wireless Association (www.lcwireless.net), located in rural NM, S/SE of Santa Fe. Terrain here seemed pretty flat when we started but seems to have gotten real up and down since :). We have about 150 members pa

[WISPA] Customer owned wireless coop

2005-12-31 Thread Pete Davis
There is a town (Yorktown, TX) with about 1200 people in it, about 15 miles away from our main pop in our county. We have not pursued a backhaul to there, or putting out a POP. We are very busy putting subs on our existing POPs and maintaining them.We have been offered roof rights in down town

[WISPA] Re: VOIP / CommPartners

2005-12-31 Thread Peter R.
Tom, CP is not a middle man. CP is the VOIP CLEC providing the service. Someone like Reignmaker or another ISP would be the middle man. Actually, CP is using the L3 model. But to say that a Reseller does not present costs to the vendor is incorrect. Training for one. With CP you get to send up