Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-27 Thread Peter R.
Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Lets take a step back... I never wrote anything about offering VOIP or 911 or E911 - I merely mentioned selling an Asterisk based phone system that is capable of redirecting long distance calls over VOIP. The customer that I mentioned is not getting their long

[WISPA] Fw: Wireless In Washington

2006-06-27 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
For those that still think the all you can eat option is a good one :-) Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -

[WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Building a Tower Trailer

2006-06-27 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Good thread from another list. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless

RE: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In Washington

2006-06-27 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Yeah, I saw that...everyone should take a good look at their Terms of Service... Jeff BroadwickImageStream800-813-5123 x106 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 11:09 AMTo: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In Washington

2006-06-27 Thread John J. Thomas
This should be reason enough for a close look at TOS and pricing mechanisms. If your clients have to pay more for usage, then they will think twice before buying into this. Fry's Electronics usually has a $20 wireless router on sale so this is not the only possible threat. The $20 wireless

[WISPA] 18Ghz through power lines?

2006-06-27 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Getting ready to deploy 18Ghz DragonWave links. However, in the middle of my path is a set of 4 power lines (no transformer). Has anyone had any experience with this? Here is my path: DragonWave master - - - - -1/4 mile / power lines - - - - - 3 miles DragonWave slave -Eric -- WISPA

Re: [WISPA] 18Ghz through power lines?

2006-06-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
Eric Muehleisen wrote: Getting ready to deploy 18Ghz DragonWave links. However, in the middle of my path is a set of 4 power lines (no transformer). Has anyone had any experience with this? Here is my path: DragonWave master - - - - -1/4 mile / power lines - - - - - 3 miles DragonWave slave

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-27 Thread Sam Tetherow
One interesting question would be what happens if the POTS line is down, but Matt's wonderful wireless network is up? ;) The customer would have voice service but no 911... Sorry, I just couldn't resist. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Lets take a step

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-27 Thread Sam Tetherow
You may be able to hold them to it later but you are still ultimately responsible. If a CPA screws up your taxes, you are still liable for that filing. You may have a case against them that you may or may not win in court. But you will still have to pay back taxes, and interest at best when

Re: [WISPA] 18Ghz through power lines?

2006-06-27 Thread Jack Unger
Eric, That's hard to predict. You may just have to try it and see. I recommend that you aim to go above, below, or between the lines by adjusting your antenna height. jack Eric Muehleisen wrote: Getting ready to deploy 18Ghz DragonWave links. However, in the middle of my

RE: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In Washington

2006-06-27 Thread Mac Dearman
This very thing is why I implemented a 5Gig rule up/down aggregate for the month written in my TOS with a $10.00 per Gig over the limit charge. There is no way possible to keep someone from sharing (although that too is prohibited by my TOS) their connection today with NAT and if you catch

[WISPA] Re: 911 compliance

2006-06-27 Thread Peter R.
Matt, PBX vendors aren't Inter-connected VoIP Providers, who are required to serve E-911 wherever they deliver service. You point out the disadvantage of Hosted PBX, but on the other side, when the internet is down, voicemail will still work and failover to alternate numbers should also

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-27 Thread Blair Davis
Actually, this is a real good question. Who would be liable when the customer picks up the phone and dials 911 and nothing happens? Sam Tetherow wrote: One interesting question would be what happens if the POTS line is down, but Matt's wonderful wireless network is up? ;) The customer

Re: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In Washington

2006-06-27 Thread Travis Johnson
Mac, So if every user on your network did 5Gig of transfer per month, your network would be OK? ;) Travis Microserv Mac Dearman wrote: This very thing is why I implemented a 5Gig rule up/down aggregate for the month written in my TOS with a $10.00 per Gig over the

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-27 Thread Sam Tetherow
My personal opinion is that if the customer signs a waiver that they understand you are not providing 911 support and that if they dial 911 they get a message that says that 911 is not available from this device then you should be covered. I KNOW that this is contrary to the law, I'm just

Re: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In Washington

2006-06-27 Thread Carl A Jeptha
As the ad says "Mac you are one sick puppy" O:-) You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Mac Dearman wrote: This very thing is why I implemented a 5Gig rule up/down

RE: [WISPA] 18Ghz through power lines?

2006-06-27 Thread Charles Wu
It generally isn't an issue I'd be more worried about windmills -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Tuesday, June

Re: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In Washington

2006-06-27 Thread Travis Johnson
Title: Message Hi, Just for fun, I wanted to see how much usage that would be... so, here is some very quick and dirty math... 5GB per month is about a 28.8 dial-up connection running all month long. That equates to about 24kbps per user. 1,000 users * 24kbps = 24,000kbps / 1024 = 23Mbps

[WISPA] $100 CPE?

2006-06-27 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15749577 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16364972 What does everyone think? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

RE: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In Washington

2006-06-27 Thread Mac Dearman
Title: Message Travis, I did not check your math as I am full of Enchiladas and Negra Modelo Cerveza. I am pretty confident in your addition and multiplication though and even if it may be wrong Its OK. We have a download factor many times greater than 24kbs 2Mbs Mac

Re: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In Washington

2006-06-27 Thread Butch Evans
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006, Travis Johnson wrote: 5GB per month is about a 28.8 dial-up connection running all month long. That equates to about 24kbps per user. 1,000 users * 24kbps = 24,000kbps / 1024 = 23Mbps (or about 1/2 of a T3) for 1,000 users. 2,000 users would be about 45Mbps. Does my

Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer

2006-06-27 Thread rabbtux rabbtux
please forward a price list :-) On 6/20/06, Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He gave me the final prices for these, so if anyone was interested, I can forward it to you. OFFLIST Brian Brian Rohrbacher wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Sovereen wrote: I'm interested in a unit, but

RE: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In Washington

2006-06-27 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Message *snip* We have a download factor many times greater than 24kbs 2Mbs Mac *snip* Mac - shuddup and goto sleep ! :) JohnnyO -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac DearmanSent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 10:03 PMTo:

Re: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In Washington

2006-06-27 Thread George Rogato
That is: (5GB/30)/5 = 33meg/hour = or about 10k/sec average. multiply that by the 1000 users, and you only use about 10M during the peak time. Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ Mikrotik Certified Consultant

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-27 Thread Blake Bowers
Remember, you could still have the costs of defending that position in a court. - Original Message - From: Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 2:27 PM Subject: Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP

Re: [WISPA] $100 CPE?

2006-06-27 Thread Travis Johnson
That they are working on developing a new product that will have bugs, hardware issues, etc. for the first 6-12 months. Trying to get to $100 (without antenna, BTW). Trango has a $149 unit that is from a company that is established, it has a built in antenna, PoE, etc. and is ready to go

Re: [WISPA] $100 CPE?

2006-06-27 Thread fred
for the trango stuff in 100qty the dishes are $36. and for what it's worth we plan on trying out the atlas fox gear immediately as it looks to have a good place in our network. non-proprietary gear likely will always have a place too. but that's beside the point. What highgainantennas is putting

Re: [WISPA] $100 CPE?

2006-06-27 Thread Sam Tetherow
I never understood the 60*x60* beamwidth when the same form factor for the fox5800 has a 32x18 beamwidth. Seems like a very poor design which makes it harder to keep noise floor and interference at a minimum. Surely the narrowing of the beamwidth cannot account for more than doubling the

Re: [WISPA] $100 CPE?

2006-06-27 Thread fred
QTY 30 is what i meant. unless they offer larger quantities a steeper discount that is not reflected on their online catalog... On 6/27/06, fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for the trango stuff in 100qty the dishes are $36. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: