Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-02 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
*high fives charles* On 4/2/07 3:44 PM, "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Honestly, > > Would you buy RB112/532/whatever boards if they cost $1k vs $100 each? > > -Charles > > > --- > WiNOG Wireless Roadshows > Coming to a City Near You > ht

Re: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's

2007-04-02 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
I ride both sides of this fence I started out leasing all of my CPE in March 2004 and for the next 24 months did more leases when we needed more CPE, buying 100 at a time. We reached a point where it looked like it didn't make a lot of sense to continue the leasing. The rates were getti

Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-02 Thread Travis Johnson
I can tell you now, the sales volume would be MUCH less if the price went up... yes, they have great functionality, but a lot of people are buying them because of the price alone. Even if an RB532 went up to only $200, it becomes more cost effective to buy Trango, Canopy, etc. for less money (b

Re: [WISPA] Nextlink's numbers

2007-04-02 Thread Peter R.
That is about average for an XO company :) http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=xoho.ob Matt Liotta wrote: For those interested... Looking through XO Holdings for FY06 they breakout Nextlink's performance. The headline is revenue of $1.2M on expenses of $17M. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wi

Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-02 Thread Butch Evans
On Sun, 1 Apr 2007, Travis Johnson wrote: Isn't the reason most people are using MT is because of the cost? How many people would buy a RB532 if it was $500? or $1,000? What is everyone's limit? ;) I can't speak for others, but I would assume that most people buy them for the same reason I d

Re: [WISPA] Is your ISP worth more than 1.2x ?

2007-04-02 Thread Peter R.
Speakeasy was not a WISP. *Middletown, RI—Jan. 30, 2007—*Towerstream (OTCBB: TWER.OB), a leading fixed wireless Internet provider, today announced the launch of its Hi-Vi T1+ wireless broadband solution in the Seattle metropolitan area. The company has acquired Speakeasy's wireless broadband n

[WISPA] Is your ISP worth more than 1.2x ?

2007-04-02 Thread George Rogato
Speakeasy went for 1.2x annual revenue. What is a smaller isp worth? http://www.speakeasy.net/press/pr/pr032707.php Best Buy anticipates a closing date for the transaction in the first quarter of its 2008 fiscal year. Following the close, Speakeasy would operate as a wholly owned subsidiary o

RE: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-02 Thread Smith, Rick
Yep, price has nothing to do with it from our perspective. All about the options @ the antenna. Ospf. Routing. Hotspot. On every rooftop.That brings mesh on the next go around. Very important in the long run. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA

2007-04-02 Thread Adam Greene
Marlon, All I can say is, this is great. Thanks so much to you guys (and gal) for doing this work. For me, this CALEA safe harbor work you are doing alone makes me feel justified in paying to be a member of WISPA. I probably would not even have become conscious in a serious way of CALEA without t

[WISPA] Nextlink's numbers

2007-04-02 Thread Matt Liotta
For those interested... Looking through XO Holdings for FY06 they breakout Nextlink's performance. The headline is revenue of $1.2M on expenses of $17M. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lis

[WISPA] New Associate Member of WISPA

2007-04-02 Thread John Scrivner
Please welcome Peter Radizeski of RAD-INFO as WISPA's newest Associate Member. I know many of you already know Peter as someone who has a wealth of knowledge to bring to our efforts. I am sure I speak for us all in saying thanks to Peter for making his relationship with WISPA formal. Here is a

RE: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-02 Thread Charles Wu
Honestly, Would you buy RB112/532/whatever boards if they cost $1k vs $100 each? -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behal

Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-02 Thread Chad Halsted
I would disagree with that. Further, I would say that most of the folks using an MT/StarOS system would tell you that price had little or nothing to do with their decision. There are plenty of solutions available that are just as cheap as building your own, perhaps cheaper - all things considere

RE: [WISPA] wispa list private?

2007-04-02 Thread Rick Harnish
I'm personally on your side Chris. I think WISPA needs to maintain a public and a private list. I do not see much action in making this list private for the foreseeable future, so don't worry. I cut and pasted that from the wireless@wispa.org signup page. The general consensus we get from pai

[WISPA] wispa list private?

2007-04-02 Thread chris cooper
Please don't take the general wispa list private. I think that taking such an action would be detrimental to all subscribers, both members and non-members and would be out of synch with the statement below. For the record- Im a member. Chris Cooper Intelliwave This list is dedicated to

[WISPA] Moderator Action

2007-04-02 Thread Rick Harnish
I have suspended JohnnyO for comments made last week. This is a 3 day suspension. Here are the rules of the list. This list is dedicated to the regulatory, legislative and best practices of the WISP industry. The list is currently a public list server but will likely become a members o

Re: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's

2007-04-02 Thread Peter R.
Referral system. Marketing via door hangers and signs. PR. Guerrilla marketing. Smith, Rick wrote: OK Marlon, how're you getting those customers to know about the choice you offer ? As a guy who's promising investors around 500 customers / year, I'm starting to look seriously into how to get t

[WISPA] [PR] One Ring Networks Helps Midtown Blue Safety Force Expand Criminal Surveillance Program

2007-04-02 Thread Matt Liotta
One Ring Networks Helps Midtown Blue Safety Force Expand Criminal Surveillance Program Observing Crimes in Awkward Places Made Possible and Affordable with Next Generation Wireless Technology ATLANTA (April 2, 2007) - Criminals may run, but they can't hide anymore. At least not in midtown Atlanta

Re: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's (leasing)

2007-04-02 Thread Travis Johnson
This is all thru our company. We own the equipment when the lease is over. Right now, after doing this for 5 years, we still have about 85% of our original CPE in the field. Travis Microserv Peter R. wrote: Who's credit is used? Does the customer do the leasing? Are they signing a lease agree

Re: [WISPA] one-third of U.S. households havenoInternet...and donotplan to get it

2007-04-02 Thread George Rogato
Jeff Broadwick wrote: Personally, I think there are certain people who should NOT be allowed to have internet access! People who Yeah, people who don't pay their bills! -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's

2007-04-02 Thread Travis Johnson
Mac, The big thing everyone forgets about the leases... you can buy in much higher quantities, thus cancelling out all the interest. We now buy CPE 250 at a time. So, even after 3 years of interest, I am paying the same as the guy buying them 10 at a time. :) Travis Microserv Mac Dearman w

Re: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's (leasing)

2007-04-02 Thread Peter R.
Who's credit is used? Does the customer do the leasing? Are they signing a lease agreement? If so, what happens if they have bad credit? - Peter Travis Johnson wrote: And thus my argument (and proof of concept) for leasing the CPE... going on 5 years now with leasing and we could do 1,000 inst

Re: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's (shows)

2007-04-02 Thread Peter R.
Then you would enjoy ISPCON. Because the ISP-CEO evening is just that - everyone talking about what is and is not working. (And the peer-to-peer networking that happens all day and night, until John M. decided to play poker :) Justin Wilson wrote: If I got to a show I ask myself the quest

RE: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's

2007-04-02 Thread Mac Dearman
I guess my thoughts are - -well - - my own. I did one lease deal years ago and have never been so proud to finally get it paid off. We always pay for our CPE as we order them. I could be wrong about all of this, but I like being debt free and yes we suffer cash flow problems from time to time, but

Re: [WISPA] fm towers

2007-04-02 Thread Blake Bowers
It makes no difference if they are licensed and you are not. It is simple boiler plate in the lease agreement. The tower owner is actually the one that would enforce the issue. The larger tower companies are usually all over fixing the issue, they do not want an industry reputation for not maki

Re: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's

2007-04-02 Thread Travis Johnson
All different companies... whoever has the best deal at the time. CitiCapital GE Avalon LEAF Financial and many others Travis Microserv Carl A jeptha wrote: Who are you leasing from??? You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00a

Re: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's

2007-04-02 Thread Carl A jeptha
Who are you leasing from??? You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Travis Johnson wrote: And thus my argument (and proof of concept) for leasing the CPE... going on 5 years now with leasing and we c

Re: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's

2007-04-02 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Jeff, I think part of the reason attendance was so low was for the lack of advertising. Unless you were on certain lists there was very little mention of WISPCON. Plus the fact that previous shows were canceled made it so not a lot of wireless providers even expected there would be another sh

RE: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's

2007-04-02 Thread Jeff Broadwick
It is really unfortunate that more people didn't go. Despite the low attendance, the speaker slate was terrific. Fat Tuesday was very "interesting" as well! Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007

RE: [WISPA] one-third of U.S. households havenoInternet...and donotplan to get it

2007-04-02 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Absolutely! I know people who work locally, but don't really want to head home to use the internet. They know ALL the free hotspots and hit them as needed...generally buying something from the host business as well. Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC

RE: [WISPA] one-third of U.S. households havenoInternet...and donotplan to get it

2007-04-02 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Personally, I think there are certain people who should NOT be allowed to have internet access! People who send a sappy story around the internet with the tag line of "if you believe in God/our country/Mom/apple pie you'll send this to 100 of your closest friends" and beside that, you have to open

RE: [WISPA] Equipment Leasing

2007-04-02 Thread Harold Bledsoe
Here is a calculator you can use... https://www.marlinleasing.com/marlin/enduser/quotecalculator.asp Harold Bledsoe Deliberant LLC 800.742.9865 x205 (office) 404.693.0660 (cell) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.deliberant.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [WISPA] Our First WISP Consultant Vendor Member - Butch Evans

2007-04-02 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Travis, Are you saying there are Wireless Provider business models in the US that can't handle certified equipment? What do you suppose that says for the industry? Regards, Dawn DiPietro Travis Johnson wrote: And then the issue becomes how much that vendor is going to mark-up the product,

Re: [WISPA] one-third of U.S. households have noInternet...and donotplan to get it

2007-04-02 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Marlon, You were the one who said these businesses don't need the Internet not me. It was just for entertainment anyways. So don't make it look like I was the one who went off topic. If you cannot produce a convincing argument to sell your services to area businesses then there is nothing I wi