Re: [WISPA] 5GHz Amps

2007-04-22 Thread Jack Unger
Lonnie, I have published a Certification FAQ http://ask-wi.com/certification.html that I believe addresses all of these questions. WISPA also has a Certification email list to further address these issues. That list is currently open only to WISPA members. Regarding using a copy of someone

Re: [WISPA] 5GHz Amps

2007-04-22 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
Are you sure about this? Is this what ADI told you, personally? The Original Manufacturer assembles a system and has it certified with that set of components and construction techniques. As long as the SAME parts and SAME techniques are used then this system should be certified. Of course the

RE: [WISPA] Equipment Certification

2007-04-22 Thread Rick Harnish
Jonathon, Hit me offlist if there is a configuration change you would like to see in the list-server setup. I'm not sure I follow your email completely. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-22 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Doesn't work that way. Those entities are called commercial, educational etc. As a rule, only a wisp would be called a wisp on the books. All customers are classified. marlon - Original Message - From: "Pete Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, April 2

Re: [WISPA] 5GHz Amps

2007-04-22 Thread Tim Kerns
Matt, Is this latest news? The last I heard was adi had certified their board in their enclosure with a couple different antennas, but never heard what OS they were running. Also, to be certified you would have to purchase the units pre-assembled from ADI. Remember the certification goes to t

RE: [WISPA] 5GHz Amps

2007-04-22 Thread Smith, Rick
OK. I stand corrected. But that's not Mikrotik, either. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 7:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5GHz Amps Wrong. ADI Engineering has a certifie

Re: [WISPA] 5GHz Amps

2007-04-22 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Wrong. ADI Engineering has a certified StarOS/War Board combo, with a choice of cards. I am currently evaluating them for my future backhauls. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com Smith, Rick wrote: Nope, not FCC certified. What Mikrotik / Star-OS systems are ? None. -Original Message- Fr

[WISPA] What about equipment providers?

2007-04-22 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
If we're to take some of what's been published literally, all "wisp equipment" providers are going to be required to be CALEA "compliant". This is going to lead to some serious compatibility and interoperability issues, if you ask me. HOW equipment maker A, B, and C accomplish stuff is likely go

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-22 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
I used to be, Mac. The "why not now" is not to be aired in public. - Original Message - From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 1:00 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition > Mark, > > > A

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-22 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
- Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition > Mark, > As the "driver of the bus" I feel compelled to reply. You certainly do a >

Re: [WISPA] Orlando + WISPA ISPCON PROMO

2007-04-22 Thread Frank Muto
Gladly John, We're excited to be exhibiting at ISPCON Spring 2007: LaunchPad Pavilion J. And we want to see you there! We have negotiated a special rate for our clients and partners so you can save big on your ISPCON full-conference registration. But that is only the start, please read on... ISP

RE: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-22 Thread Mac Dearman
Mark, Are you a paid WISPA member? Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 11:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broa

RE: [WISPA] Equipment Certification

2007-04-22 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Our WISPA list server does a nice job of including the original header after the words "on behalf of"...which incorporates the original list author's e-mail address. Not all do but the WISPA server does. But it won't shoe up in a forward, usually, just by reading the original. . . . j o n a t h

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-22 Thread John Scrivner
Mark, As the "driver of the bus" I feel compelled to reply. You certainly do a god job of selling your ideas. I could almost decide to mutiny along with you if I did not believe that part of doing business is to obey the laws of the land. So far the government of the United States has asked s

[WISPA] Equipment Certification

2007-04-22 Thread Smith, Rick
Jack Unger, contact me offlist, pls. I forget your email addy... Got a couple of pertinent questions for you. R -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

RE: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-22 Thread Smith, Rick
Nope. I still won't fill it out. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 2:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition Pete, you hit on an inter

RE: [WISPA] 5GHz Amps

2007-04-22 Thread Smith, Rick
Nope, not FCC certified. What Mikrotik / Star-OS systems are ? None. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 11:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5GHz Amps Rick, Can you tell me if th

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-22 Thread John Thomas
Pete, you hit on an interesting idea. What if the FCC were to pay the ISP say $500 each year to fill out the 477? Would more ISP's participate? John Pete Davis wrote: 12000, 6000, 2000, or whatever number of WISPs is mainly hard to quantify because there are LOTS of 2 and 3 customer private wi

Re: [WISPA] Orlando

2007-04-22 Thread John Scrivner
Frank Muto has set up a deal where your entry to ISPCON is practically free when you consider the free 100% WISPA dues payment he will make on your behalf. An exhibit pass is free when you use a code from WISPA, Frank or Peter. I think ImageStream has a free exhibit hall pass code also. I don't

Re: [WISPA] 5GHz Amps

2007-04-22 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
The solid dishes are much better than the grids. The 26db grids are pretty decent, but the 29db grids (both PacWireless and Equinox) are poor compared to the solid dish 29db antennas. I saw an 8db improvement in signal switching from a 29db grid to a 29db solid dish antenna at a couple of my

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-22 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
Peter, your intended meaning for the word...and what I assumed you meant, were pretty much the same. I am not "offended" by it, so no worries. You stated something that I was hoping you'd reveal... it goes something like this, the regulators are in pursuit of "control or cooperation". I'd like

Re: [WISPA] 5GHz Amps

2007-04-22 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
My expeirence is that the grids are on par, gain-wise, with the solid dishes. The solid dishes have MANY RF advantages, but a 26 db grid will do 26 db and 29 dish will do 29. the solid dishes have advantages in stability, beam accuracy, front/back ratio, and so on. But the gain is the gain, it

Re: [WISPA] 5GHz Amps

2007-04-22 Thread Steve
Does anyone have some real-world experience comparing the grid with the solid 5.8 antennas. Is the listed gain accurate in describing performance? or are there additional advantages of the solid dish at equivalent gain ratings? I have only installed grid at this point, due to local high wind consid

Re: [WISPA] 5GHz Amps

2007-04-22 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Rick, Can you tell me if this system you suggested is FCC Certified? Regards, Dawn DiPietro Smith, Rick wrote: use an XR5 (ubiquity) card as radios, with mikrotik, a 24 dbi panel on the aesthetic end from pac wireless. 3' dish on the other end. You'll have more than enough margin. Don't eve

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-22 Thread Peter R.
Mark, A well written piece. However, I think you miss my point: "Either we defend ourselves, and we defend the "cowboys" as Peter likes to call people like me by rising in opposition to ANY regulatory garbage that puts us under their thumb... Or we've just killed our whole industry." You talk

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-22 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Now you did it Pete, some one will get wind of that idea and pose it to his boss in a effort to move up the ladder. Seriously tho, Ive felt the way things were being funded by RUS were kinda like that. I saw a state loan go to a company once that totally abused it. It was a case of the right hand

Re: [WISPA] Weekend Trivia

2007-04-22 Thread Peter R.
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Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-22 Thread Pete Davis
12000, 6000, 2000, or whatever number of WISPs is mainly hard to quantify because there are LOTS of 2 and 3 customer private wireless networks, where a business will buy a T1, DSL or whatever, and share it wirelessly with a few nearby business, within or without the terms of service agreements.